davis.anthony
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A PC port would be interesting from a PC performance review, this would be the first PC port of a game made just for PS5, so a much higher baseline than PS4/PS4 Pro.
PS5 is 60fps at native 1080p irrc?
PS5 is 60fps at native 1080p irrc?
Daty Gone was a very good port, Horizon had issues at launch.
Considering it's native 1080P on PS5 and gfx are nothing amazing I dont think PC's will struggle.
davis.anthony
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Exactly, it's 1080p on a 10Tflop 'next gen' console and not built with a 1.8Tflop base PS4 in mind.
With the game using next to no RT and an RTX 3090 being twice as fast as PS5 in raster I think you can forget native 4k at PS5 quality settings on any PC configuration.
Over twice as fast. The rtx4000/rdna3 will probably double that before Returnal launches.
DLSS will increase performance nicely aswell.
davis.anthony
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Techpowerup show the RTX3090 to be twice as fast as a 6600XT/RTX2060s, this is also mirrored in other review sites so it's not over twice as fast as PS5.
According to rumors the RTX4090 is not double of the RTX3090.
PS5 is already rendering at 1080p with an upscale, so DLSS, also an upscale will not do anything for performance, it will only help image quality.
Silent_Buddha
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Not something I really want to dive into, but since you are specifically referring to rumors...
Yes, rumors do suggest that 4090 is 2x 3090. Whether you want to believe rumors or not? /shrug. I don't pay attention to them, myself and I only ran into this because it was posted in the NV next gen. rumors thread. If you don't know who that is, many consider them a reliable leaker.
Myself, I prefer to wait and see what products run at once they hit retail.
Regards,
SB
davis.anthony
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I follow him on Twitter, the rumors I have seen have it having 53% more 'shader' cores than a 3090 so unless there's a substantial increase in IPC or clock speed I'm having a hard time believing it will be 'double' the performance of a 3090.
That being said even ~50% more performance will be huge as we don't see that kind of jump very often now.
Techpowerup lists the 'Ti' improvement at 4k as:
780ti to 980ti as 30%
980ti to 1080ti as 46% (1080ti truly was an animal)
1080ti to 2080ti as 28%
2080ti to 3090ti as 36%
If Nvidia can nail a 40-50% perf increase across the whole RTX 4000 range it will be a huge win for everyone.
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DuckThor Evil
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You are doing the percentages wrong there. 980ti was 54% of the performance of the 1080ti, which means that 1080ti was 85% faster then the 980ti.
980ti was 42% faster than 780ti. Actually 980ti was better than that, but it was very conservatively clocked
780Ti to 980Ti was 50% (1440p)
https://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/geforce-gtx-980-ti-test-nvidia-titan/4/
980Ti to 1080Ti was 66% (1440p)
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-test/2/
3070(2080Ti) to 3090TI is 67% (4k)
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Rade...650-XT-Test-Benchmark-Vergleich-1394222/2/#a3
https://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/geforce-gtx-980-ti-test-nvidia-titan/4/
980Ti to 1080Ti was 66% (1440p)
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-test/2/
3070(2080Ti) to 3090TI is 67% (4k)
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Rade...650-XT-Test-Benchmark-Vergleich-1394222/2/#a3
davis.anthony
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You are doing the percentages wrong there. 980ti was 54% of the performance of the 1080ti, which means that 1080ti was 85% faster then the 980ti.
980ti was 42% faster than 780ti. Actually 980ti was better than that, but it was very conservatively clocked
I hate percentages!
Love the 980ti though, the best card available that still supports VGA output for use on a CRT monitor.
Nvidia ditched the DVI ports that have VGA pass through from the 1000 series and upwards.
I would love an RTX card with native VGA pass through but none I've seen even have DVI ports.
To start, the performance delta between a 6600XT and a 3090Ti is very large. In ray tracing performance that gap is even wider. The PS5 is theoretically (practically aswell seeing benchmarks) slower than a RX6600XT, with less CPU grunt to back it up. It also lacks DLSS, a tech which could upscale a 1080p image to a 4k one instead of the 1440p the PS5 is supposedly doing, with the same or even better performance ratio.
If the PS5, basically a entry/low end amd gpu (weak RT aswell) with a downclocked zen2 (mid end at best) can run this game at 1080p upscaled to 1440p at 60fps, then a high end pc today should, if the port is done right, give you atleast a 4k image at that same fps, in special considering there's RT involved, which usually decimates performance on AMD parts so far.
Theoretically a 3090(Ti) delivers over twice the performance vs a 6600XT, in RT in the range of 3 times or more. The 6600XT contains infinity cache, and some other RDNA2 native features too.
And as others have pointed out, the percentages speak for themselfs.
digitalwanderer
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Curious why you want the VGA, need it for you CRT?
davis.anthony
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Yep....Still using CRT in 2022, not seen a modern display that competes with my CRT...Although the new OLED monitors are starting to get very close, give them another 12-18 months (And prices to drop) and I think I'll finally be able to move to a flat panel.
DavidGraham
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The 1080Ti is 85% faster than the 980Ti @4K.
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Wrong! The 2080Ti is 40% faster than 1080Ti @4K!
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Sigh, The 3090Ti is 57% faster than 2080Ti @4K!
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The 2080Ti is not the full die though, the Titan RTX is, so the 3090Ti is like ~53% faster than the Titan RTX.
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DuckThor Evil
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The 1080Ti is 62% faster than the 980Ti @4K.
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I think the "percentage issue" was already sorted well enough, but I'm curious to see your math reaching that 62%?
