*ren* PSN Down, Customer Info Compromised

For me I'm at 28 days of no service from sony , two more days and I'm at a full month without the service. Thats a hell of a diffrence compared to just 5 days with xbox live
I thought xbox live was down for 2 weeks over one Christmas period.

Please keep your drama to the prescribed areas.

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-boston/xbox-live-down-how-quickly-we-forget

The offer is a joke as it rewards people that haven't bought much from PSN, not people like Ant, Arwin and myself that have spent hundreds of our native currency in the store, but hey-ho. If xbox 720s are built better than 360s maybe I will have a decision to make next time round.
 
If you read your own links you would know it was two weeks of down time. THere were specific outages during 9 days . To top it off players could still play online , they would have issues buying content or account management.

Its a far cry from being completely down for a month
 
I thought xbox live was down for 2 weeks over one Christmas period.

Please keep your drama to the prescribed areas.

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-boston/xbox-live-down-how-quickly-we-forget

The offer is a joke as it rewards people that haven't bought much from PSN, not people like Ant, Arwin and myself that have spent hundreds of our native currency in the store, but hey-ho. If xbox 720s are built better than 360s maybe I will have a decision to make next time round.

Judging from this thread it seems like some of us "hardcore XBOX users" are not far behind in how much we have spent on the PS3/PSN either...
 
They are games that are offered along with $100 pieces of hardware. It was the user's choice. I don't see sony offering any hardware to the consumer to make up for the failure.

I have a keyboard , two usb plugs for the controllers and a fan to keep my ps3 cool while it was still working. Unless you think its good to only be able to charge two controllers at once and use usb for nothing else
The horror of plugging in your DS controller into your laptop!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes: Show me a situation where you actually need to use a keyboard and charge to controllers or the world falls apart as you seem to be indicating - once again you are exaggerating the inconvenience.

I can give credit to sony where its due , I don't see it being due however. I see this as full blown failure on sonys part . They have not only lost service for a month , but then had more attacks due to their own idiocy and to top it off they have had their customers information and credit card information stolen.
That's the problem, you're not object here hence you get called out from time to time for all your cheer leading of MS and over stating of Sony issues.

This is far worse than hardware failures or live being down for a few days.
No its not, first of all you can't seem to get your facts straight, earlier you were saying he lognest Live was down was 5 days now your saying 9 days. Regardless if I had 2 or 3 RROD which is quite common for many of us who bought 360s during the first 3 years, there is a good chance we experienced more than a month of down time due to the error on MS's part. PSN being down didn't prevent me from playing most games locally it kept me from playing online multiplayer and a few PSN titles with DRM issues. For that inconvenience I have multiple titles to choose from for free but that isn't good enough for you because the titles are older however somebody getting Kameo and Perfect Dark for a RROD is proof that MS is here to save the day. But once again earlier in the thread people were complaining that the games Sony is offering are more than 6 months old.

I think way to many people are dismissing what has happened to give sony a pass. Japan wouldn't let sony bring back the servers because they felt Sony didn't add the proper security. A country is stoping sony from screwing more people , but I guess there is allways going to be a subset that will protect a company for some odd reason[
I don't see anyone giving Sony a free pass, I see people trying to put the issue into perspective and calling out over the top comparisons by people such as yourself who have motives which are clear to anyone who is the least bit objective here. Giving away all this software is unprecedented as far as I know. I can't think of another situation where one the major companies gave away this much software to compensate users who in many cases hadn't been harmed in a way that is easy to quantify. PSN going down is subjective because most users don't pay for it and some don't game online anyway but regardless all who have PSN accounts will get software as compensation.
 
People keep going on about how psn is free so somehow it's ok that it's down for a month and that people should be grateful for anything given. That simply doesn't fly anymore in 2011 with any company, be they in video games or wherever.

Bullshit, it´s not about being grateful, it´s about feeling it´s "fair". Do i feel i get a back rub and a happy ending? No, do i think "great 5 games worth 250 dollars!" awesome! No...

Do i think it´s an fair deal even though i got most of what is on that list? YES! I get 2 free games for the PSP i would never have bought, i get Dead Nation and i might just go for LBP so i don´t have to use the disc anymore. And, since i have a german account, i might get 2 more games from there..

And i this is me, a "hardcore PS3 user" that have had the console since 1 minute past midnight the day it was released, if i am satisfied most others should be as well.

The real test is, would i have preferred PSN for the past month over the freebie's? absolutely.
 
They could credit any account that has actually spent money on psn or has been used for online on psn.
I think that's a fair idea
Yeah it costs them coin but too bad, they blew it and they have to now make amends or forever be remembered as the "too bad we don't care" company. The way they have handled it now is poor and will result in fallout, obviously not from the Sony faithful but from the more ambivalent crowd that isn't brand loyal.
I don't think the damage is that bad, certainly not worth hundreds of millions of dollars in freebies when Sony's finances aren't that great. Free vouchers towards any Sony published games, given to accounts that have spent money, would have given the widest choice at the least cost.
 
Hell look at ms , the new update doesn't work with some older xbox 360 systems so ms is going to comp those people a new xbox 360 slim .

MS has simply handled this generation better than sony. The RROD was a major problem but they extended the warrenty and have given many users retail games and hardrives and other acessorys

To be pedantic, it's not the new May Xbox Dashboard update, it's an older update which has been in place for a while now.
 
Dead Nation, a game which I have zero interest in.

woah - a gamer who has zero interest in a zombie game!? does not compute!

If iTunes went down or somehow didn't allow people to play their music, podcasts, etc for a month, then I guarantee you people would be pissed at Apple if they "compensated" everyone by giving them free Beatles songs.

WTF - the PSN down-time and compenstaion offered is nothing like this comparison, I would say this is like comparing apples to playstations
 
That may be true, but lets be honest here - what was released within the past 6 months on PSN that would be considered better value than what they are offering?

Good question. Nothing has been released in the past month...
 
To top it off players could still play online , they would have issues buying content or account management.

Its a far cry from being completely down for a month

Well they could if they didn't mind having int. online issues, and as we know - there's nothing worse than having int. online issues...esp when you pay the privelage for a premium 'vastly superior' service (which is all I ever hear when I ask what makes PSN so poor in comparison). You're right though, having my sky sports channels int. working for 9 days is a far cry compared to having eurosport offline for a whole month.
 
I haven't looked into this, but I assume details are on the playstation blog to get my free games? And no credit card info is required right (like is required for free content sometimes)?

Also, the MS statements seem merely here and elsewhere to stop the tailspin from going out of control. First PSN was down for a few days and it was compared to LIVE being down for a few days. Nobody had a problem with these statements, and threads such as this and the mainstream media remained civil. It was when the statements towards MS/LIVE became more and more preposterous (the amount of downtime, the extent of compensation, how LIVE actually works, etc) that people commented back down to reality, even in the mainstream media.

Also, does DRM on the PS3 work like LIVE in that if the downloaded game can't authenticate it reverts to demo mode? I don't download games on my PS3, only on the 360, so I know that you need a connection to LIVE if you are playing on a different 360 than what you originally purchased the content on. So I'm curious if migrating PS3 owners had any such DRM issues during this outage. My disc PS3 games still worked fine.

They have very different systems in place compared to 360 XBLA titles. XBLA titles that have not had a license transfer do revert to trial games with no Live auth but the majority of PSN titles do not have this type of system built-in to the game and most don't have trials so in these instances you typically (assuming you don't have a slew of Capcom games...) will have been able to play without issue during the PSN downtime.
 
MS has simply handled this generation better than sony. The RROD was a major problem but they extended the warrenty and have given many users retail games and hardrives and other acessorys .
Eh? Do you know how annoying and irritating it is for the consumer to have his 360 RROD'ed multiple times even at free "repairs"? Which is waiting for weeks for replacement with a refurbished 360? Which may be an RROD'ed time bomb even after the warranty expires?
None of the people I know whose 360's had problems got any accessories or games for free
 
Good illustration of the over hysterical knee jerk response as has been evident across the net. When your own random sample is 75% against your hypothesis you'd think you'd get the message!!
 
Good illustration of the over hysterical knee jerk response as has been evident across the net. When your own random sample is 75% against your hypothesis you'd think you'd get the message!!

I don't know. Do you tend to form your opinions based on the consensus opinion? I don't.
 
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