Real sports

Balderdash, Basketball was created before the MTV generation. (European youth have short spans too, it's a western phenomena) And if the game was created specifically to appeal to attention spans, why was baseball so much more popular? Basketball, like hockey, is exciting because it is fast paced and aggressive. Youth today do not want to see a "gentlemanly" game of tip-sipping bluebloods playing at a country club pace.

I don't play first person shooters because they cater to a short attention span, I play them because they are so fast that they require more of my attention.


Football is a game not only of individual skill, but of strategy. As an armchair coach, it is much more exciting. As an armchair player, it still has the element of individual achievement. The game can have commercial breaks merely because it is turn-based.


The reason why the scores are so much lower in soccer has nothing to do with team balance. The NBA is also balanced as is most professional sports. It has more to do with the size and organization of the playing field. Soccer just makes it really hard to score, and defensive play is way easier in soccer, the offense is at a disadvantage. In baseball, they lengthened the size of the parks, since most of today's batters could hit a homerun almost everytime if the parks were sized as they were in baseball's beginnings.


In basketball and football, the defense has to work much harder to prevent scoring. They've shortened the shot-clock in basketball, but it hasn't stopped much. In basketball in particular, it is very hard to stop scoring. If someone is a good shooter, for example, they can shoot 3-pointers and there's not much you could do to stop them if they are deadly accurate.

In ice hockey, for example, the net is much smaller than soccer, so it is easier to defend. If it was any bigger, the smaller arena size would make ice hockey more like basketball, with scoring much more frequent.


I simply refuse to watch a sport that go can for hours with a score of 0 - 0, and someone wins by getting a lucky free kick at the end.

Beach or professional volleyball or tennis is way more exciting.

When someone wins, I want it to be because they OBVIOUSLY played with either superior skill or strategy. A game's rules for scoring should leave without a doubt, at the end, who played better. I do not want it to be because the goalie was tired, slipped on the grass, or mispredicted a random kick.

May as well flip a coin to decide the end of the game at that point.


At the end of a superbowl, I usually know, usually by the 1st half, which team is OBVIOUSLY playing better and which plays were truely great. Lucky breaks should not be what makes the sport "exciting"
 
I like soccor, but one often has to wait 10minutes for a great 'action', so its kinda a chill sport to watch, kinda like Formula 1.

Basketball is only a great sport to watch when its two exciting guard driven teams. I agree watching defense oriented teams with dominant big men (eg san antonio) is a little boring.. As it tends to be shoot arounds. The college game is really exciting to watch in the sweet sixteen+.

Football is awesome, particurally at playoff time.

Baseball.. Bleh!
 
people the game known as football by the world (except the US) is known as soccer in the US. ;) quit calling it soccor thats not even a word.

later,
 
Heh...I'm already satisifed that the Devils won the Cup!

I'm not a basketball fan at all, but I'll root with you for the Nets to win of course...being a fellow New Jerseyan and all. ;)
 
RussSchultz said:
Many people think baseball is long enough--God knows how you'd get people to be interested in a 3 day event.

Heh, full matches can go to 5 days. ;)

And there IS Juniour Cricket, which is 1 day and goes many times faster than the real thing... lot more sixers and such in those games. It's really crazy to watch right after a real match. Hehehe :)

I love Cricket... but no channels here seem to carry it. :(
 
Joe DeFuria said:
Heh...I'm already satisifed that the Devils won the Cup!

I'm not a basketball fan at all, but I'll root with you for the Nets to win of course...being a fellow New Jerseyan and all. ;)

yea you going to go to the devils parade ? I will be at the nets game tommorow night . I hate basketball but hey if my cousin wants me to chill with him who am i to pass it up haha .
 
International test matches generally do go 4 or even the full 5 days, unless england's playing of course, in which case we'll loose in about 2 days :(

Especially v australia who have beaten us in pretty much everything except rugby recently :devilish:
 
qwerty2000 said:
jvd how did you get the finals tickets man i tried to get it but they already sold out when i called

i have season tickets to the devils so i got a chance to buy tickets first . I bought and payed for game 7 tickets a day before game 1 heh. But my cousin has season tickets to the nets .
 
covermye said:
Tired of basketball? That got my attention (good ol' Indiana boy here... if you get tired of basketball in Indiana, they kick you out of the state!)

I wish that were true, then maybe they wouldn't have gone to class basketball, lol. Though I think I'd have to say I'm tired of the NBA. I think if you gave me the option of seeing an NCAA or high school championship game, I'd choose that over the NBA finals (unless of course the Pacers somehow shape up and get there). I played in the pep band at Pike for 4 years, saw pretty much every home game, then followed them thru the tournament in '98. I don't think I've ever seen as much excitement about at some of those games (even regular season) as in any regular season NBA game recently. Of course it helps when your team kicks some serious ass like they did then and this last year, hehe.
 
you know what I like baseball for?

long car rides.

nothing like the white noise banter of radio announcers and the baseball crowds on the AM band to sooth the ears and shrink a long car trip down.

try it sometime, its awesome. the hours just melt away.

otherwise, baseball sucks.
 
Tagrineth said:
RussSchultz said:
Many people think baseball is long enough--God knows how you'd get people to be interested in a 3 day event.

Heh, full matches can go to 5 days. ;)

And there IS Juniour Cricket, which is 1 day and goes many times faster than the real thing... lot more sixers and such in those games. It's really crazy to watch right after a real match. Hehehe :)

I love Cricket... but no channels here seem to carry it. :(

Dont you get any non-US channels?? Star Sports/ESPN generally broadcast cricket matches here...
 
I find it hilarious everyone here seems to be calling football soccor which epic pointed out isn't even right. It's soccer!!! No it's just plain ol' football. I mean you ain't gonna spell foozball wrong now are you?

D'oh!
 
DemoCoder said:
But I believe Football (Grid Iron, not Soccer/rest-of-world-football-excluding-rugby) is the ultimate manifestation of team sports. The player's positions are way more specialized, it's like a turn based Real Time Strategy game, as each unit's position, movement plan, and skill is highly effective in its success. This is not American pride saying this, it's more an abstract analysis. I have an aussie friend who first noticed these qualities in gridiron vs other sports. In fact, gridiron bears a striking resemblance to modern military themes: front lines, defense units, flanking maneuvers, aerial vs ground movements, etc.

Originally football was basically ritualised warfare. Around the 12th century in England, it was extremely popular. Entire villages would kick the living daylights out of each other, just to get a pigs bladder from point A to point B. It has been banned several times due to the amount of injurys people get (not that anybody cared, In England banning football would be as stupid as banning Beer). It was rare for anybody to leave the field without some kind of injury.

Its still practised in a few places in England, if you ever get a chance to see it do, you'll never look at any form of modern football the same ever again. Real football involves a number of villages (2 or 3 usually) over several miles of pitch (usually farmers fields, so you have ditches, hedges, trees etc) trying to kill each other for about a day.
 
Tahir said:
I find it hilarious everyone here seems to be calling football soccor which epic pointed out isn't even right. It's soccer!!! No it's just plain ol' football. I mean you ain't gonna spell foozball wrong now are you?

D'oh!

Thats cause the only people who ever write Soccer are Americans, the rest of us just say/write Football. Its not an English word, some kind of foriegn language :p Can't be expected to know how to spell it :D

A English man who got caught called saying Soccer instead of Football in a pub, would get the proverbials kicked out of him. Thats close to blasphemy.
 
DeanoC said:
DemoCoder said:
But I believe Football (Grid Iron, not Soccer/rest-of-world-football-excluding-rugby) is the ultimate manifestation of team sports. The player's positions are way more specialized, it's like a turn based Real Time Strategy game, as each unit's position, movement plan, and skill is highly effective in its success. This is not American pride saying this, it's more an abstract analysis. I have an aussie friend who first noticed these qualities in gridiron vs other sports. In fact, gridiron bears a striking resemblance to modern military themes: front lines, defense units, flanking maneuvers, aerial vs ground movements, etc.

Originally football was basically ritualised warfare. Around the 12th century in England, it was extremely popular. Entire villages would kick the living daylights out of each other, just to get a pigs bladder from point A to point B. It has been banned several times due to the amount of injurys people get (not that anybody cared, In England banning football would be as stupid as banning Beer). It was rare for anybody to leave the field without some kind of injury.

Its still practised in a few places in England, if you ever get a chance to see it do, you'll never look at any form of modern football the same ever again. Real football involves a number of villages (2 or 3 usually) over several miles of pitch (usually farmers fields, so you have ditches, hedges, trees etc) trying to kill each other for about a day.

Ashbourne in Derbyshire (20 min drive for me) has an annual event I believe and may be the origin of football or the *ahem* version you talk of DeanoC.
 
Wow, lots of baseball bashing here. I dunno, maybe it's because I've only been seriously following the MLB for 2 years.. but I'm not bothered by things like strikes (and strike warnings) and high salaries. I find the sport a little slow but still interesting.
 
Bambers said:
International test matches generally do go 4 or even the full 5 days, unless england's playing of course, in which case we'll loose in about 2 days :(

Especially v australia who have beaten us in pretty much everything except rugby recently :devilish:

We're just too good. :LOL:
 
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