So with this sammy sosa thing can we finally close the book on baseball being an actual sport ? I mean really all the players are juiced up. The only decent teams are payed for . The games are boring. There are way to many teams and no action takes place. This is just an out dated sport that needs to go . Does anyone else agree ?
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ive stopped caring about baseball, and basketball. getting tired of seeing ridiculous amounts of money thrown at players (and people who havent even played anytime). All this leads to more expansive shoes, and higher cable bills. Give me a good game of football , and american football, or even some cricket. BTW the three mentioned sports also have the same problem with overpaid players.
later,
later,
Cricket > Baseball
Field Hockey > Ice Hockey
Football (Soccor) > American Football
Interestingly, I read somewhere that during 1930s cricket was extremely popular in US, infact US was about to be given test status.....I dont know why and how cricket dissapeared from US screen!
Field Hockey > Ice Hockey
Football (Soccor) > American Football
Interestingly, I read somewhere that during 1930s cricket was extremely popular in US, infact US was about to be given test status.....I dont know why and how cricket dissapeared from US screen!
soccer is what we call football
heh as an italian american i'm outraged by that . I know what football is . My father got dishnetwork just for ria so we can watch the juventous and body games on tv.
Fav sports are soccer and hocky
Devils rule . I had surgery in the morning for a hurnated disc and was sitting in the 4th row to see my team win the cup
2nd time i've seen it.
The thing i love about both sports is just like in real life its very very hard to score
Fav sports are soccer and hocky
Devils rule . I had surgery in the morning for a hurnated disc and was sitting in the 4th row to see my team win the cup
2nd time i've seen it. The thing i love about both sports is just like in real life its very very hard to score
Tired of basketball? That got my attention (good ol' Indiana boy here... if you get tired of basketball in Indiana, they kick you out of the state!)
I'd like to think that in the U.S., with current salary cap rules and player-owner agreements taken into account, the NFL is the creme of the crop of professional sports. Basketball, however, is not even on the same planet as BASEBALL. The NBA has a respectable set of rules when it comes to salary caps, free agency, etc...
Professional baseball, however, is completely worthless now. How much credibility do they have left, after all the strikes, ridiculous salaries (A-Rod's $252 million contract comes to mind, as well as the Yankees organization as a whole), and ridiculously long season that renders any single game or series, even, pretty much inconsequential. It just doesn't make sense as a sport, IMO...
Sort of related, but more specific: I know people like to knock the NBA for "no defense", boring games, etc... Not so this finals series. For me, a HUGE basketball fan (fan of the TEAM game, not individual showoffs), this NBA finals so far has been everything basketball is SUPPOSED to be about: Two TEAMS (not a couple of individuals showing off) trying to hold each other down with defense. Makes for a boring game if you're a Lakers fan used to 120 point nights, but it's a blast for me.
Even more off topic: Has anybody else watched the NBA finals games in HD? While ABC's crew seems to have some slight issues with the cameras at times, this just further proves to me that sporting events with bright lights and lots of straight lines/contrasting colors are the PERFECT way to show off HD. I thought the SuperBowl was AMAZING too... If you haven't made up your mind on the benefits of HD but haven't watched any sporting events, you'll change your mind quickly when you do!
I'd like to think that in the U.S., with current salary cap rules and player-owner agreements taken into account, the NFL is the creme of the crop of professional sports. Basketball, however, is not even on the same planet as BASEBALL. The NBA has a respectable set of rules when it comes to salary caps, free agency, etc...
Professional baseball, however, is completely worthless now. How much credibility do they have left, after all the strikes, ridiculous salaries (A-Rod's $252 million contract comes to mind, as well as the Yankees organization as a whole), and ridiculously long season that renders any single game or series, even, pretty much inconsequential. It just doesn't make sense as a sport, IMO...
Sort of related, but more specific: I know people like to knock the NBA for "no defense", boring games, etc... Not so this finals series. For me, a HUGE basketball fan (fan of the TEAM game, not individual showoffs), this NBA finals so far has been everything basketball is SUPPOSED to be about: Two TEAMS (not a couple of individuals showing off) trying to hold each other down with defense. Makes for a boring game if you're a Lakers fan used to 120 point nights, but it's a blast for me.
Even more off topic: Has anybody else watched the NBA finals games in HD? While ABC's crew seems to have some slight issues with the cameras at times, this just further proves to me that sporting events with bright lights and lots of straight lines/contrasting colors are the PERFECT way to show off HD. I thought the SuperBowl was AMAZING too... If you haven't made up your mind on the benefits of HD but haven't watched any sporting events, you'll change your mind quickly when you do!
epicstruggle said:
Really.. who should the money go to then?
The players are the ones generating the money and the draw for the customers who pay to see them, it makes sense that they get the lions share. Here in Sacramento, the Kings have a sell out crowd just about every night - who are the fans coming to see play? Not to watch the Maloofs dance, not to see other fans, but to support and watch the players - Webber, Divac, Bibby, etc. If it wasn't for the good team and the good players, Arco Arena wouldn't be selling nearly as many tickets.
I suppose we should throw stones at John Carmack and John Romero, too? They made so much money creating a silly little game where people play as bloodthirsty space marines mowing everything down. It doesn't matter that if it wasn't for them, the game would have never been made! They just shouldn't the money! While we're at it, let's take the money from all the pop singers! They just run their mouth and jiggle their legs! Arrggh! I'll never play an FPS game or listen to a song, they just get too much cash!
why watch on tv i live a few mins from the stadium. I hate basketball. They should just let each player shoot and see who makes the most in before time runs out. Cause really thats all they are doing in that game. You rarely ever see a steal or whatever . It allways oh my god they missed. They lost the game. Last time i liked basketball bird and magic were playing . Jordan came and brought the game down to new lows .
jvd said:
Ya know, it'd probably be better to comment on the current state of basketball if you watched the sport. And as for the Jordan comment, I agree. That bastard should have never came to the game of basketball. He made the game so boring with his low intensity style of play, scored too little points, drew too little fans, won very little games and did nothing at all to help put basketball in the spotlight. And above all, played no defense and had no grasp of the game's fundamentals! I say we shoot him tommorrow, our kids should never have to see such a horrible role model.
How about it not leaving my pocket in the first place. Look, I really dont care either way, as im not putting my hard earned money on watching some sport team go at it. (not 100% true as i would go see the bears (football), brazil (soccer))dksuiko said:
I also feel the same way about the music and movie industry, its getting to freaking expensive to be entertained by either movies or music.
btw i know alot of people who do know that soccer is known as football by the rest of the world.
thats why i said:later,
The rising ticket prices I think are more to do with supply/demand. The promoters can still sell out at $40 a seat for just about any band--so why should they charge less?
It is a shame in markets where the football team has no support(the old Houston oilers, for example) and they still don't have seats that were cheaper than $20.
And the teams wonder why nobody shows up?
It is a shame in markets where the football team has no support(the old Houston oilers, for example) and they still don't have seats that were cheaper than $20.
And the teams wonder why nobody shows up?
dksuiko said:
When it comes to baseball, I think you've gotta agree that "the money" is getting a little out of hand. Salary caps not only keep it affordable for the fans, they keep the whole league "in check" to some extent, making the playing field more level for everyone. Salary caps are a necessity, IMO, in any sport...
Baseball will find this out. It might not be today or tomorrow, but if salaries (and ticket/PPV prices) continue to rise at current rates, there will be more and more "Montreal Expos" in the Major Leagues...
dude if you read what i wrote you would know that i went to the games. My cousin is a season ticket holder and a huge fan of the nets . I live 5 mins up the road from brendonberg arena .... excuse me continental arena. I was in the arena to see the devils win. I will be there to see the nets win.dksuiko said:
Damn Aussies Cricketers! Though, I don't think the Aussies were all that hot at the time, I could be wrong.
They seem to be owning cricket, it's sad because they walk on the field and there seems to be little point in watching (unless it's Pakistan). Then again, the entire professional game is very tarnished due to the fixing.
Additionally, that limited over (18 or whatever) blasphamey is just plain WRONG. That retarded version throws away all the great stuff about cricket. It makes it a crappy sport like baseball.
They seem to be owning cricket, it's sad because they walk on the field and there seems to be little point in watching (unless it's Pakistan). Then again, the entire professional game is very tarnished due to the fixing.
Additionally, that limited over (18 or whatever) blasphamey is just plain WRONG. That retarded version throws away all the great stuff about cricket. It makes it a crappy sport like baseball.
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/NATIONAL/ICC_MEMBERS/USA/USA_HISTORY.htmlDeepak said:
Google is your friend.
The basic principle is: cricket was for stuffy limeys. We ain't stuffy limeys, so we made our own game (baseball).
Many people think baseball is long enough--God knows how you'd get people to be interested in a 3 day event.
I hate long slow sports like baseball, cricket, and soccer. Soccer is particularly annoying because you can go almost the entire game without scoring. If a team scores 2 points and another scores 1 point, does that mean the team with 2 points is twice as good?
I guarantee you that in basketball, if one team scores 100ptns and the other scores 50, the first team is much much better, whereas, in soccer, it can come down to a lucky shot. I don't feel the game rules and scoring system lead to a proper sampling of team ability.
Hockey IMHO is much more exciting than soccer, it's like a sped up version on ice, with fast breaks like in basketball.
But I believe Football (Grid Iron, not Soccer/rest-of-world-football-excluding-rugby) is the ultimate manifestation of team sports. The player's positions are way more specialized, it's like a turn based Real Time Strategy game, as each unit's position, movement plan, and skill is highly effective in its success. This is not American pride saying this, it's more an abstract analysis. I have an aussie friend who first noticed these qualities in gridiron vs other sports. In fact, gridiron bears a striking resemblance to modern military themes: front lines, defense units, flanking maneuvers, aerial vs ground movements, etc.
My two favorite sports: Gridiron (American Football), a thinking man's game. Basketball: fast paced twitch based action. Runner up: Ice Hockey, particularly as finesse'd by Canadians.
I guarantee you that in basketball, if one team scores 100ptns and the other scores 50, the first team is much much better, whereas, in soccer, it can come down to a lucky shot. I don't feel the game rules and scoring system lead to a proper sampling of team ability.
Hockey IMHO is much more exciting than soccer, it's like a sped up version on ice, with fast breaks like in basketball.
But I believe Football (Grid Iron, not Soccer/rest-of-world-football-excluding-rugby) is the ultimate manifestation of team sports. The player's positions are way more specialized, it's like a turn based Real Time Strategy game, as each unit's position, movement plan, and skill is highly effective in its success. This is not American pride saying this, it's more an abstract analysis. I have an aussie friend who first noticed these qualities in gridiron vs other sports. In fact, gridiron bears a striking resemblance to modern military themes: front lines, defense units, flanking maneuvers, aerial vs ground movements, etc.
My two favorite sports: Gridiron (American Football), a thinking man's game. Basketball: fast paced twitch based action. Runner up: Ice Hockey, particularly as finesse'd by Canadians.
DemoCoder said:
I'd have to disagree with you on soccor. The difficulty in scoring is what makes it such a great sport. The reason you rarely ever see a game in which one team scores 6 points and the other scores 0 is because the talent is more evenly spread than in other sports. Also basketball was created to apeal to americans short attention span. That is why scores go so high. Also in basketball scoring is done so often that it looses the thrill of it. Really you only have to watch the last minute of the game . That is where all the excitement is .
As for football . Well after college level it becomes a joke. What other sport stops for comercial breaks .
