Rate the "nextgeness" of upcoming titles on a scale from 1 to 10
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Yes...reason being technical buzzwords do not convey how nextgen a game looks. You could have a game running at 4K resolution using deferred rendering and not look nextgen. You could have a game running at 720P using forward rendering and look completely nextgen. It's more biased toward graphics of course because it's based on visuals.
No, you're overthinking it man. You're trying to find a reason, there is none. You don't need to like or understand something to see that it looks more/less nextgen. Just rate the upcoming games on how nextgen they look without trying to rationalize why it looks the way it does. Some games look more/less nextgen so give them a number according to where they rank in your honest/unbiased opinion. Think you could handle that? Nobody seems to have gotten butt hurt so far...will you be the first?
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RenegadeRocks
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I am not "butt hurt" at all
. What else is "nextgeness" then, if not what you like in the current selection of games? Its just funny that we are supposed to rate games on no parameters at all, not even on our own liking, not on how they look, not on technicalities, not on gameplay. I guess this is a true abstract thread, if I have ever seen one.I think we already have "what games are we getting on launch " thread, which pretty much tells us what we like best in the upcoming games. If at all we need a discussion, we need an open discussion on all the engines and what they are doing new in the next gen.
Anyways, Have fun ! Who am I to question anything? I just expressed my amusement at it.
Looks like I missed it last time
. Time to stick to reading and not commenting then.
I've decided to take the plunge and say what looks most next gen to me for now. I'd say Quantum Break, Ryse and The Order, in no particular order.
Forza 5 textures and materials are very next gen too, especially considering it runs at 1080p, but overall those look better. I expect great fraphics from KZ: SF too, but I will wait for DF articles in this case.
Billy Idol
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Quite all games so far I've seen look next gen to me....next gen in the sense of PC gaming quality this gen
Nothing at the moment strikes me as particular next gen with new never before seen tec...as most of this can already be played on PC, with maybe even higher quality.
So in conclusion...there is still no next gen game in sight that gets me really excited with respect to graphics...but there are lots of them that look super good to my eyes (in no particular order): KZ SF, Ryse, Infamous SS, BF4, The Order: 1886 and a few others I miss...
Nothing at the moment strikes me as particular next gen with new never before seen tec...as most of this can already be played on PC, with maybe even higher quality.
So in conclusion...there is still no next gen game in sight that gets me really excited with respect to graphics...but there are lots of them that look super good to my eyes (in no particular order): KZ SF, Ryse, Infamous SS, BF4, The Order: 1886 and a few others I miss...
Of all the nextgen media I've seen, absolutely non tops this.
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/205/6/2/1_by_anomally-d6evxyy.gif
You see many next gen games do a few things really well here and there but non does so many good things all together at this scale running at 1080p. This screams nextgen to me, not just one nice looking main character model but the entirety of it. The Witcher 3 is on the same level though.
So based on all the available footage released to the public, here's my listing.
Uber tier: The Dark Sorcerer (since QD's game always looked far better than the tech demo)
10: KZ SF, The Witcher 3
9: The Order 1886
8: Division, Ryse, BF4, Infamous SS, MGSV
7: Watch Dogs, Deep Down, AC4
Of course things could easily change once I played all of them or seen more of them.
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/205/6/2/1_by_anomally-d6evxyy.gif
You see many next gen games do a few things really well here and there but non does so many good things all together at this scale running at 1080p. This screams nextgen to me, not just one nice looking main character model but the entirety of it. The Witcher 3 is on the same level though.
So based on all the available footage released to the public, here's my listing.
Uber tier: The Dark Sorcerer (since QD's game always looked far better than the tech demo)
10: KZ SF, The Witcher 3
9: The Order 1886
8: Division, Ryse, BF4, Infamous SS, MGSV
7: Watch Dogs, Deep Down, AC4
Of course things could easily change once I played all of them or seen more of them.
Going to burst your bubble there, but the majority of that scene's background is probably just camera synced and rendered offline in an offline renderer. Just like how movies "cheat" with matte paintings and 2D plates, cutscenes are now doing so with offline renders and matte-enhanced backgrounds.
Haha you ain't bursting no one's bubble today. Everyone has seen this by now and know it's all realtime.
At 19:30 mark.
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The end of the clip? Edit: Ah, you meant 19:30. I'll fix that for you, and watch Tchock eat his words.
Didn't you just prove my point? The city is loaded in-engine, but the amount of buildings rendered in the wireframe only really tend to mid-ground of the scene- the bigger buildings are real and in LOD (the escape scene). Guerilla loves their mattes and projection mapping, and you'd have seen much of it in earlier Killzones.
The buildings are roughly within the first/lower half of the screen when you're completely outside. There's not many complex structure towards the sea. But when you flyover from inside the building and look out, it's cool to see the entire "world" comes into view.
If the presenter turned right and continued, he should hit the tall wall and waterfalls. Somewhere further down, it's the forest level right beside the wall.
I wouldn't mind flying over the city just like a Lair game for kicks.
If the presenter turned right and continued, he should hit the tall wall and waterfalls. Somewhere further down, it's the forest level right beside the wall.
I wouldn't mind flying over the city just like a Lair game for kicks.
It is! Guerrilla's art dept seems to be thinking in a manner that's closer to CG studios than a traditional studio, so props to them.
But to generously call it next-genny based off the scale virtues of that gif/sequence, is kind of like calling Myst IV (2005) fit of being current/next gen. (Really underrated game with impeccable... vRay visuals
)L. Scofield
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The only game I could give a 10 is Deep Down for its volumetric fire simulation.
http://abload.de/img/deepdown2quk2x.gif
http://abload.de/img/deepdown3rlkri.gif
Every other game is just souping-up tech we've already seen this gen.
KZSF's city looks good but all the buildings in the backdrop are extremely low poly, like boxes. With the lighting and atmospheric effects it looks good but it's nothing impressive really.
http://abload.de/img/deepdown2quk2x.gif
http://abload.de/img/deepdown3rlkri.gif
Every other game is just souping-up tech we've already seen this gen.
KZSF's city looks good but all the buildings in the backdrop are extremely low poly, like boxes. With the lighting and atmospheric effects it looks good but it's nothing impressive really.
That KZSF opening scene has more than low-poly buildings and fake background. ^_^
It was a continuous sequence from the air all the way to inside the building (to configure the player's loadout), similar to the flyover demo above but in reverse direction. A current gen version would have to cut the scene into different perspectives to save memory.
There are also huge waterfalls, and other jazz along the way, somewhat like the opening scene of Lair. A Lair player could swoop from mid-air to the ground in one continuous motion, but the ground enemies were all rather small in size (or low detail). In KZSF, when you have landed, the characters all have much higher poly because they stand that much closer to you. In Lair, we would also notice the aggressive LOD changing/"rippling" continuously all around the landscape.
Here's a comparison of KZSF vs KZ2 opening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StVaPnwhzG4
I still love KZ2 although the tech limitations stand out more today.
It was a continuous sequence from the air all the way to inside the building (to configure the player's loadout), similar to the flyover demo above but in reverse direction. A current gen version would have to cut the scene into different perspectives to save memory.
There are also huge waterfalls, and other jazz along the way, somewhat like the opening scene of Lair. A Lair player could swoop from mid-air to the ground in one continuous motion, but the ground enemies were all rather small in size (or low detail). In KZSF, when you have landed, the characters all have much higher poly because they stand that much closer to you. In Lair, we would also notice the aggressive LOD changing/"rippling" continuously all around the landscape.
Here's a comparison of KZSF vs KZ2 opening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StVaPnwhzG4
I still love KZ2 although the tech limitations stand out more today.
Bah... looks like powder. It's not whether the game has a bullet point, it's how the elements are implemented and integrated that makes a difference. In current gen, the SPU implementation of some graphics techniques was more interesting to watch (different results/look from GPU implementations).
