R520 Running

[hovz]

then they must not want to make any money

 

[Pete]

First you get the shoogar, then you get the money, then you get the wee-men.

I mean, what's so hard to believe about a rare prestige part? It's easy to find a zillion examples of it, even in our favorite car analogies. And nV became popular (read: no. 1) in part by selling lots of lower-end product based on their high-end dominance. Thus the XTPE, the UE, etc., blah, halo effect, yadda.

And they can always bin the "rejects." It's not like ATi's losing money due to the XTPE. In fact, the XTPE was their sole bright spot for a time in theoretical recommendations ($500 XTPE, $400 GT).

 

[rwolf]

Hellbinder, is this new AA method the same thing as the R420 as 4 RV350 cores combined? 8)

I still dont understand why you think this is some kind of slam. I was basically dead on accurate about 12 months in advance. Perhaps you should take a closer look and rethink your critisisms of me.

The X800 is 4 "Quads" that are similar to the RV Quads and then beefed up to PS 2.0+ and some other things. This is the basic idea I put forth on Nvnews a long long time ago. Is it *exactly* accurate? No but it is pretty close.

The X800 Quads share several similarities to the RV360. Like for instance the AF method is identical, and not the same as the R300 or R360. Thats just one thing.

You were closer than anyone else I thought. 8)

 

[Dave Baumann]

I'd say someones been smoking something...

 

[Arun]

I bet nV have a 0.09u, 16-pipe part now (NV46?). The news from their camp has been very confusing and I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of it has been smoke & mirrors.

Who knows! *looks above my post, oh right*
NVIDIA's approach in the last year or so really seems to have been a "try as much stuff as possible and mass produce whatever you find best 3 days before announcement" one. Okay, that's obviously not true, but my point is they got a LOT more backup plans than they did in the NV10->NV30 era.
The NV40 "tapeouts" certainly were a prime example of that "smoke & mirrors" game MuFu's talking about. Everyone in the company but the core group of engineers working on the actual chip has NO clue wtf is going on (unlike in the NV10->NV20 era), and of course that creates a lot of misinformation on the net.

Uttar

 

[Ailuros]

The NV40 "tapeouts" certainly were a prime example of that "smoke & mirrors" game MuFu's talking about. Everyone in the company but the core group of engineers working on the actual chip has NO clue wtf is going on (unlike in the NV10->NV20 era), and of course that creates a lot of misinformation on the net.

That's most certainly true. On the other hand though I personally think that keeping classified information as secure is possible until announcement, is a major benefit for any company in the end.

 

[digitalwanderer]

I'd say someones been smoking something...

How they hell did you know, I haven't even posted yet today!

 

[Fodder]

The Clock Requirements for this part are *PEAK* attainable for some thousands of parts.

Sounds like the 5800U and 6800UE we all adore so much.