R420, NV40 launch info at Anand's

X800 would suggest one less refresh part planned for R4xx than those planned for R3xx.

Is R500 that close?

maybe spring 05?
 
I'm currently trying to establish when R500 will appear. I'd actually previously pinned it as a Longhorn / DX Next product, but that appears to have been very wide of the mark - seems that it will be here much earlier than I'd expected.
 
Bjorn said:
Evildeus said:
Sounds interesting 8)

Definitely. And i wonder what that means with regards to the X-Box 2 chip, R600 based ?
Well, i don't know, but i would say that there's some stuff to clarify with Ati's roadmap (i would say the XBOX 2 seems have some consequences on this roadmap)
 
Latest estimate I'd heard was that MS wanted the XBox2 ready in in 2005 - I'd estimate that finished XB2 chips need to be ready many months before. As I said though, I'd highly doubt that PC and XBox2 will be very similar in configuration (although they probably will share ALU structure and capabilities).
 
I don't understand, what is the point of a 512 meg card? We're barely using all of what 128 can do, UT2K4 at highest settings barely takes 170 megs of ram, Call of duty with the extra settings takes about 150.. Is there an actual game thats going to need 256? hl2 nvidia wise is completely shader crippled, bandwidth means jack shit. On the ATi side its all CPU bound from physics and AI (check shader day if you need confirmation on this one..)

It just seems stupid to me.
 
DaveBaumann said:
Latest estimate I'd heard was that MS wanted the XBox2 ready in in 2005 - I'd estimate that finished XB2 chips need to be ready many months before. As I said though, I'd highly doubt that PC and XBox2 will be very similar in configuration (although they probably will share ALU structure and capabilities).

So i guess that the X-Box 2 will SM3.0 based then, since DX Next won't be available by that time, or ?
 
DaveBaumann said:
I'm currently trying to establish when R500 will appear. I'd actually previously pinned it as a Longhorn / DX Next product, but that appears to have been very wide of the mark - seems that it will be here much earlier than I'd expected.
Since this seems to be the case, does that mean we can start speculating what might or might not be in the r600 chip? I mean r500 has got to be pretty far down the design phase, that much wont be added anymore. It might be fun to start speculating what could be added to the r600/nv60 that will be released closer to longhorn/dx next.

later,
epic
 
"What seems highly unusual is the scheduled introduction of Radeon X800 XT on May 31st; only a month after Radeon X800 Pro's unveiling."

Any chance this is the all 16 pipes card? One month to build up some inventory and then go? I bet that sucker will be expensive to keep down demand.
 
DaveBaumann said:
I'm currently trying to establish when R500 will appear. I'd actually previously pinned it as a Longhorn / DX Next product, but that appears to have been very wide of the mark - seems that it will be here much earlier than I'd expected.

Wouldn't this lend credence to the rumour that the R500 was originally going to be the R400? I mean, something coming out that early would suggest it isn't a DX Next part, but rather a high performing SM 3 part, perhaps with a view to laying the ground for DX Next?

That's my first ever industry guess. I feel so proud... and inaccurate :D
 
geo said:
"What seems highly unusual is the scheduled introduction of Radeon X800 XT on May 31st; only a month after Radeon X800 Pro's unveiling."

Any chance this is the all 16 pipes card? One month to build up some inventory and then go? I bet that sucker will be expensive to keep down demand.
It's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm guessing X800 Pro will list for ~$350, and X800 XT will have higher clocks and list for ~$450.
 
My random thoughts:

1) I thought it had been verified that ATI is having press in Toronto on the 13th as well, so we were ecxpecting a launch on the same day as ATI. However, what appears to be happening is this:

* nVidia publiclly launches the NV40 on the 13th.
* ATI briefs the press on the 13th about their launch
* ATI keeps press under NDA until the 26th

2) Not sure what's actually going to happen with the X800 AT launch: Is the X800 XT not going to be mentioned at all at this month's launch, and launched separeted on May 31? Or are the Pro and XT going to be launched at the same time, just that availability of the XT will be a month later?

3) Of course...what is the XT relative to the "Pro?" Just a bit higher clocked with Overdrive? Or possibly 4 vs. 3 quads?
 
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