PS3 Specs confirmed? BDA included = Yes

pc999 said:
No EyeToy as standard here:cry: :cry: :cry: .

Again, this is simply everything Sony said at E3. The page is months old. It's not a re-confirmation of spec or an announcement of the final offering.

Although I wouldn't be expecting eyetoy as standard, as hot as that'd be :(
 
Blu-Ray player. There has been dowm speculation that Sony was going to do the 2 sku thing. One price with Blu-Ray & one price wtih out.
How does Bluray drive come out to BDA? And I haven't heard any such speculation about the Bluray drive being there or not. The hard drive, yes, but not the Bluray drive. That would completely defeat the purpose of pushing Bluray as an actual data medium for the games by saying that it's not guaranteed that any PS3 will read games on Bluray.
 
inefficient said:
1 input 2 output, not sure what that means since LAN traffic is bidirectional by nature. I guess 1 to the WAN that connect to the net through a NAT/Firewall and then 2 for the LAN and no NAT?

Maybe it's for the new eye toy or connecting ps3 together?

GB123: well the new firewire has 800mpbs compared to USB2 which only has 480mbps (and gblan has 1000mbps which is kinda samrt to have the HD eye toy connected to)

sumdumyunguy, it's a new camera to PS3 with 2k*1k res.
 
ShootMyMonkey said:
How does Bluray drive come out to BDA? And I haven't heard any such speculation about the Bluray drive being there or not. The hard drive, yes, but not the Bluray drive. That would completely defeat the purpose of pushing Bluray as an actual data medium for the games by saying that it's not guaranteed that any PS3 will read games on Bluray.

Well let me direct you to a entire subsection of a forum, dedicated to the Blu-ray player on PS3 or not & any other obscure thing related to Blu-Ray. The reason it was speculated is that the cheapest (thus announced) BDA player is 800USD. the best bet so far on the PS3 price is 500USD. So unless you want the high end market, why would I as a manufacturer make a BDA if Sony is going to give you next-gen games and a BDA player.
 
sumdumyunguy said:
Well let me direct you to a entire subsection of a forum, dedicated to the Blu-ray player on PS3 or not & any other obscure thing related to Blu-Ray. The reason it was speculated is that the cheapest (thus announced) BDA player is 800USD. the best bet so far on the PS3 price is 500USD. So unless you want the high end market, why would I as a manufacturer make a BDA if Sony is going to give you next-gen games and a BDA player.
Because there's a 6month gap between whetn the $800 BR player launches, and when the PS3 launches. In that time cheaper alternatives will come out.

ALso, PS3 will mostl likely be pretty much impossible to find (like 360 is now) well into the new year, so a HD enthusiast who isn't into gaming, isn't going to bother going through the nightmare that it would be trying to secure a PS3 during the launch period.

By the time PS3 is actually freely available, we're probably talking early 07, by that point I'd imagine standalone BR players will have come down quite a bit...especially when you consider they will be waging a price war with HD-DVD.
 
sumdumyunguy said:
What is this Eye Toy you speak of?

It's a camera used for a motion-tracking interface. It's kind of like magic :p ;) You move your hand to hit something and you hit it etc (see here for info on eyetoy play 2 - http://ps2.ign.com/objects/617/617059.html, or here for a video of a e3 ps3 demo: mms://zdmedia.wmod.llnwd.net/a111/o1/1UP/eyetoyduckdemo_112k.wmv). Applications for it thusfar have been relatively modest, but very popular since it's so accessible (they've sold over 5m to date). One might hope it would be made standard in PS3 because it would really open it up for broader and deeper adoption generally in games i.e. Sony would be cooking a "revolution" of its own :p

weaksauce said:
Maybe it's for the new eye toy

Probably. The new Eyetoy is an IP camera, apparently, so it would/could connect through ethernet.
 
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The reason it was speculated is that the cheapest (thus announced) BDA player is 800USD. the best bet so far on the PS3 price is 500USD. So unless you want the high end market, why would I as a manufacturer make a BDA if Sony is going to give you next-gen games and a BDA player.
In addition to what scooby mentioned, there's also simply the fact that Sony is a supporter of Bluray as a medium for HD movies in the format war against HD-DVD. Getting a cheap Bluray player out onto the market is a way of getting the format out to more homes. After all, if brand new Bluray players are $800, chances are good that HD-DVD players will also be similarly high when they're new onto the market. So as a consumer, would you buy an $800 HD-DVD standalone player or a $500 game console that also plays Bluray movies? Considering that most movies out there will probably be published in both formats until a clear winner is certain... there's little to no difference to you the consumer as far as buying your movies as HD-DVDs vs. Blurays. So if Bluray players reach further market penetration, that also means you can sell Bluray players more easily given time.

It was the same thing with PS2 and playing DVD movies. Standalone DVD players were new back then and very expensive, and PS2 was a far cheaper alternative.
 
ShootMyMonkey said:
Considering that most movies out there will probably be published in both formats until a clear winner is certain... there's little to no difference to you the consumer as far as buying your movies as HD-DVDs vs. Blurays.

There's currently quite a large difference in title availability on the platforms. Sony Pictures/MGM alone has exclusive access to the largest catalogue of Hollywood movies, and Fox and Disney are also supporting Blu-ray exclusively. On top of shared support (with HD-DVD) from Warner and Paramount.
 
Titanio said:
Again, this is simply everything Sony said at E3. The page is months old. It's not a re-confirmation of spec or an announcement of the final offering.

Although I wouldn't be expecting eyetoy as standard, as hot as that'd be :(

There had been so much hints even MR or TS (cant remember) from Epic said that he would buy one PS3 for is parents just to do video calls, it would be a really let down if they dont put one.
 
pc999 said:
There had been so much hints even MR or TS (cant remember) from Epic said that he would buy one PS3 for is parents just to do video calls, it would be a really let down if they dont put one.

That's not a hint! You could do vid calls buying it seperately. There've been no hints as far as I recall of eyetoy being standard.

edit - well I remember phil harrison saying YEARS ago that it might be nice to have eyetoy as standard with their next system, but there's been nothing since they actually started talking about ps3 in may.
 
Titanio said:
That's not a hint! You could do vid calls buying it seperately. There've been no hints as far as I recall of eyetoy being standard.

edit - well I remember phil harrison saying YEARS ago that it might be nice to have eyetoy as standard with their next system, but there's been nothing since they actually started talking about ps3 in may.

I just said that as the latest exemple, because (if I remember well, and I am pretty sure I am) he said that it would come with one.

That is other and I am sure they gave a few more, but I cant remember now.

ET as standard is a must that could do wonders from gaming, multimedia and comunication gaving a overall value much bigger to PS3. Lets have hope.
 
pc999 said:
ET as standard is a must that could do wonders from gaming, multimedia and comunication gaving a overall value much bigger to PS3. Lets have hope.

I agree, but looking at the cost of the machine I don't think it's going to happen...
 
ShootMyMonkey said:
In addition to what scooby mentioned, there's also simply the fact that Sony is a supporter of Bluray as a medium for HD movies in the format war against HD-DVD. Getting a cheap Bluray player out onto the market is a way of getting the format out to more homes. After all, if brand new Bluray players are $800, chances are good that HD-DVD players will also be similarly high when they're new onto the market. So as a consumer, would you buy an $800 HD-DVD standalone player or a $500 game console that also plays Bluray movies? Considering that most movies out there will probably be published in both formats until a clear winner is certain... there's little to no difference to you the consumer as far as buying your movies as HD-DVDs vs. Blurays. So if Bluray players reach further market penetration, that also means you can sell Bluray players more easily given time.

It was the same thing with PS2 and playing DVD movies. Standalone DVD players were new back then and very expensive, and PS2 was a far cheaper alternative.



Actually the first HD-DVD player is 500 from Toshiba with a 1 March expected delivery. Several people in the forum mentioned above have already preordered it from BB, Circuit City & Amazon. I also disagree that there will be a cheap (cheaper than PS3) BDA player soon (18 months). The PS2 was then & is now, not very good DVD playback device.

The real question is which of these HD formats will J6P endorse. I understand Sony trying to leverage the PS3 for early adoption, but as you mentioned it will be in extrememly short supply & the standalone (1st gen) BDA players will be very exspensive. Not to mention that Sony has already stated that the suggested wholesale price for new BDA movies will be more than many new DVD movies at retail.

As much as Sony might wish it so, the early adopters for Blu-Ray & the early adopters for the PS3 are not the same consumer. Those guys over at AVS have completley requirements for a High Definition playback device (for them the gaming is just fluff) than say these people here have for a next-gen game console. Also it seem that now the PS3 will not debut until this fall, so that HD-DVD will have a head start (assuming, of course, that this time Toshiba comes through).
 
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