Pre-PS2 launch
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I took a picture of someone playing GT4 and marvel at the photorealism!
Evil_Cloud said:When PS2 was unveiled there were some games showed like TTT, The Bouncer, dropship(?) and The Getaway. The difference between this first footage of these games and the actual games was quite 'radical'.
Almost everything was fake or scrapped due deadlines.
Does someone still has the renders of Dropship, the getaway and movie footage of TTT and The bouncer when they were presented to the press? Or does someone knows the location of a website that contains these things?
I just want to see the differences between the 'planned' and 'actual' games
I believe these are some of the shots you were talking about;
And i remember seeing the "dinosaur" demo on PSX and thinking "OH MY GOD JURASSIC PARK IN REAL TIME!!!" then i looked closely and quickly changed my mind
still, when i saw the tech demo on PS2 with the rubber duck in the sink full of water, now that was cool, i thought that was photorealistic. and since then we've seen MUCH better representations of water on PS2 (BGA, ICO, Splashdown especially)
the ONLY demo which can still look pretty impressive is the "Find my own way" demo in the CD that came with PS2 at launch. i popped it in last night, and still i was in awe.... unbelievable... it's just.... unbelievable... the amount of particles flying around is... unbelievable...
still, when i saw the tech demo on PS2 with the rubber duck in the sink full of water, now that was cool, i thought that was photorealistic. and since then we've seen MUCH better representations of water on PS2 (BG
A, ICO, Splashdown especially)the ONLY demo which can still look pretty impressive is the "Find my own way" demo in the CD that came with PS2 at launch. i popped it in last night, and still i was in awe.... unbelievable... it's just.... unbelievable... the amount of particles flying around is... unbelievable...
london-boy said:And i remember seeing the "dinosaur" demo on PSX and thinking "OH MY GOD JURASSIC PARK IN REAL TIME!!!" then i looked closely and quickly changed my mind
still, when i saw the tech demo on PS2 with the rubber duck in the sink full of water, now that was cool, i thought that was photorealistic. and since then we've seen MUCH better representations of water on PS2 (BG
the ONLY demo which can still look pretty impressive is the "Find my own way" demo in the CD that came with PS2 at launch. i popped it in last night, and still i was in awe.... unbelievable... it's just.... unbelievable... the amount of particles flying around is... unbelievable...
I too remember looking at the PS dinosaur demo and imagining what the future games would look like.
I remember the original Wipeout as being something amazing graphically, when I played it first time. I imagined what a first person shooter would look like using the same engine
(wasn't there a fps shooter later for PS from the same team that did WO??)Recently I digged up the old Wipeout to check how it looks now, and it was quite awful
I also tried the Find My Own Way demo on PS2, and it really has nice efects, especially the water and the 'flaming heads'. When you zoom in the water demo, those countless 'snow particles' are actually wireframe squares.
btw, the trailer that comes when you insert the disc has a short clip of footage from Oddworld
and Gran Turismo clips look terrible with awful jaggies, almost like a PSOne game Fortunately the released GT3 looked nothing like it.Even though tech demos do not represent what we'd see in games, it'd be great to have them for example in magazine coverdvd's.
rabid, and the one where u have a kind of comet made up of particles... if u zoom out enough, u can see the surrounding sphere made up of particles, with the particle emitter in the middle throwing around millions of particles.... litterally millions... and frikking fast as well.... we should have games using effects like these, or at least retaining the atmosphere, the overall "look"...
Both Bouncer and TTT were improved dramatically from their early showing graphically(Bouncer especially).
GT2k had an early techdemo with the night stage which didn't look too hot either, when you compare it to what GT3 looks.
The uberhighres screen would look about like that if you pointsample it down to 640 from the original resolution (which was over 3000x3000. There was also a video of that demo circulated on the net but I don't think I have it anymore...
There was also TGS'99 GT2k demo with Seattle track which was commonly used by GT/PS2 naysayers to "proove" various things.
marconelly!
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Actually, GT3 on it's night/wet track looks prety much like that 3rd screen (if you watch a replay where it sometimes adds the motion blur).
ZoE2?
Fafalada said:...like posting 10 X zoomed pictures of some roadside bank, or a faraway car, and complaing 'how terribly blurry textures and jagged car models'...There was also TGS'99 GT2k demo with Seattle track which was commonly used by GT/PS2 naysayers to "proove" various things.
I never forget those funny times.
marconelly! said:
YEAH... still waiting for that one to be released in europe...
Nick Laslett
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I have "The Bouncer" making of featurette on DVD.
This contains the original footage shown at the PS2 unveiling. (Direct feed)
I can assure you that the finished game is far superior to the original demo and surpasses it in everyway.
It is unfortuate that the developer had to remove the interaction with the scenery due to pressure to get the game released. I believe if this feature had been included in the game's reputation would be much higher.
This contains the original footage shown at the PS2 unveiling. (Direct feed)
I can assure you that the finished game is far superior to the original demo and surpasses it in everyway.
It is unfortuate that the developer had to remove the interaction with the scenery due to pressure to get the game released. I believe if this feature had been included in the game's reputation would be much higher.
Nick Laslett said:
Personally i don't think that the only problem with The Bouncer was the lack of interactivity with the scenery.... the lack of a GAME was much more noticeable...
rabidrabbit said:I also tried the Find My Own Way demo on PS2, and it really has nice efects, especially the water and the 'flaming heads'. When you zoom in the water demo, those countless 'snow particles' are actually wireframe squares.
btw, the trailer that comes when you insert the disc has a short clip of footage from Oddworld
Even though tech demos do not represent what we'd see in games, it'd be great to have them for example in magazine coverdvd's.
Oh really??
i have an European PS2 and I also have the demo that comes with it with "The Find My Own way" techdemo but I haven't seen anyting of Oddworld.Speaking of Oddworld why are Oddworld Inhabitants only developing their games for the Xbox now?? Did Microsoft buy them or do they own the exclusive rights? I still don't know for sure.
Damn Munch's oddysee was already in full development for the PS2 and it looked gorgeous on the numerous screens and videos of the PS2 version wich looked as beautiful (or even more!) than the Xbox version. But then Micrsoft came with a big briefcase of money and Lorne Lanning siad that the PS2 was too difficult to program for (but the graphics on it looked wonderful!!??
) Here are some beautiful video's of the PS2 version (still on ign) of Munch's Oddysee. look at the date!! some are from 5/4/2000 and january 2000,...!
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/grow.mov
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/recycler.mov
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/rain.mov
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/vending.mov
And these 2! Damn soo beautiful (but are these in real-time on the PS2?)
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/oddworldwatertable.mov
http://ps2movies.ign.com/media/previews/video/oddworld/munchsoddysee1.mov
Enjoy the fantastic Oddworld games Xbox owners!!!
Well, it really isn't footage, it might as well be just a still picture.Berserk said:rabidrabbit said:I also tried the Find My Own Way demo on PS2, and it really has nice efects, especially the water and the 'flaming heads'. When you zoom in the water demo, those countless 'snow particles' are actually wireframe squares.
btw, the trailer that comes when you insert the disc has a short clip of footage from Oddworld
Oh really??
Speaking of Oddworld why are Oddworld Inhabitants only developing their games for the Xbox now?? Did Microsoft buy them or do they own the exclusive rights? I still don't know for sure.
Damn Munch's oddysee was already in full development for the PS2 and it looked gorgeous on the numerous screens and videos of the PS2 version wich looked as beautiful (or even more!) than the Xbox version. But then Micrsoft came with a big briefcase of money and Lorne Lanning siad that the PS2 was too difficult to program for (but the graphics on it looked wonderful!!??
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It lasts just a second or so, it is during that introductorty PS2 montage that is played before the main menu. Just before footage of Dark Cloud, if I remember correctly.
If you blink, you might miss it
marconelly!
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They made a deal with Microsoft to develop 4 Oddworld games for them, and got money to do that.
Supposedly, they had a lot of problems doing 3D graphics on PS2, and even on the Xbox they resorted to middleware at the end.
Rumor is, after Munch was finished, good chunk of the team was laid off (my guess: to be replaced with more capable programmers, as their design team is second to none).
Now they are making another game that looked rather promissing in concept screens, but the video footage on discovery was rather discouraging to say the least.