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[reever]

Well let's see, the rendering of the following items are broken: walls, lighting, shadows, weapons, and fog. What's left to render?

Alright, so I should have said "could count for doing x% less work" or better yet, "incorrectly render x% of the game". But then that wouldn't have made people think about it for themselves, now would it?

Something that's broken or incorrect does not neccessary mean it's not rendering it, or that it's getting a performance bonus. Lots of bugs could lead to *decreased* performance.

Fog also worked incorrectly with wolfenstein ET in one driver set, coincedentally it had increased performance.

 

[Eronarn]

See what?

B0rk3d new version messes up features in Far Cry (at least). Cuts out many features. I think there's a STRONG possibility that it's gaining performance from those features, and would like to see it studied. That qualifies as a cheat in my opinion if it is the case that it improves performance at the cost of graphics.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

See what?

B0rk3d new version messes up features in Far Cry (at least). Cuts out many features. I think there's a STRONG possibility that it's gaining performance from those features, and would like to see it studied. That qualifies as a cheat in my opinion if it is the case that it improves performance at the cost of graphics.

It's just insanely poor form to use a "leaked" driver to show increased performance in a benchmark, when there are several known, significant issues with image quality.

It just makes ZERO sense whatsoever, and I can't see any LEGITIMATE reason to use those drivers.

 

[RickCain]

What makes you think that the NV40 is not capable of legitimately achieving these higher framerates? It was pretty obvious that there were a lot of FarCry bugs using Forceware 60.72 drivers, and the NV40 card was defaulting to NV3x optimized hardware settings.

Nvidia's prior behavior over the last 15 months, especially including the 6800 Ultra launch where they tried to pass less-than PS-1.1 effects off as PS-2.0 and PS-2.0 effects off as PS-3.0. If NV40 is that good, why would they have to resort to such underhanded tactics?

You hit the nail on the head.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Nvidia's prior behavior over the last 15 months, especially including the 6800 Ultra launch where they tried to pass less-than PS-1.1 effects off as PS-2.0 and PS-2.0 effects off as PS-3.0. If NV40 is that good, why would they have to resort to such underhanded tactics?

You hit the nail on the head.

Now darn it, that's just not fair!

They didn't do it intentionally, it's just they've been doing it for so long that it's just kind of reflexive for them anymore and their modus operandi.

Give some time, it takes a while to break bad habits like that...kind of like smoking.