Pre-order X800 Pro - ?NDA? - 8 extreme / 12 normal PS pipes

[g__day]

Is this called how to break an NDA? So the R420 Pro has 8 extreme PS pipe and 12 normal pipes (I read this as 8 pipe that can do multiple ops and 4 that can do a simpler set of ops - guess its all the same fp precision?_

How do folk anaylse this?

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=8988&sid=QDW3SU88MR308NT1TVC71XN9HSTJ27C2#

ATi RADEON X800 PRO 256MB DDR AGP8X TVO/DVI (Retail)
Built by ATi
12 parallel pixel pipelines
256-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory Interface
8 extreme parallel pixel pipelines
6 parallel vertex processing engines

The ATI RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers frame rates that surpass any previous graphics processor making it the world’s most powerful VPU. With up to two times the performance of the acclaimed RADEON™ 9800 PRO, the RADEON™ X800 PRO provides an extremely smooth, responsive HD gaming experience, putting capable gamers in complete control of even the most demanding game titles. A radically new architecture based on the latest .13 micron, low-k manufacturing process with ultra fast and efficient GDDR3 memory combine to produce extreme data rates and unbelievable acceleration in a quiet, cool, single-slot solution.

BREAKTHROUGH IMAGE QUALITY
The RADEON™ X800 PRO defines a totally new High-Definition Gaming experience for the avid gamer by maximizing performance and image quality in higher detail and at higher resolutions than ever before. ATI‘s new and revolutionary 3Dc™ image enhancement technology brings characters to life and scenery to greater realism by enabling significant improvements to the image detail of character art with increased performance and lower memory usage. 3Dc™ is slated to become the industry standard to support more complex high-definition visual effects in real time.

ADVANCED 3D ARCHITECTURE
The RADEONTM X800 PRO features SMARTSHADERâ„¢ HD, the most advanced pixel shader engine with 12 parallel pixel pipelines capable of an incredible 6 gigapixels/second fill rate in full precision! With six programmable vertex shader pipelines, capable of up to 7000 million vertices per second and an overall capability of over 140 million floating point operations per second(Giga FLOPS), the RADEONâ„¢ X800 PRO delivers the most beautifully rendered high-definition 3D animation for the ultimate in intense, interactive game play.

Direct X 9.0 Vertex Shaders

Vertex programs up to 65,280 instructions with flow control
Single cycle trigonometric operations (SIN & COS)

Direct X 9.0 Extended Pixel Shaders

Up to 1,536 instructions and 16 textures per rendering pass
2nd generation F-buffer technology
accelerates multi-pass pixel shader programs with unlimited instructions
32 temporary and constant registers
Facing register for two-sided lighting
128-bit, 64-bit & 32-bit per pixel floating point color formats
Multiple Render Target (MRT) support


etc...

 

[webmedic]

I think they will have 32,16 and 8 bit color thats what I think unless I'm reading that wrong.

 

[kemosabe]

Already a thread going, guys: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12001

 

[mavis]

Re: Pre-order X800 Pro - ?NDA? - 8 extreme / 12 normal PS p

accelerates multi-pass pixel shader programs with unlimited instructions

Isn't this a part of SM3.0? The "unlimited instructions" bit?

 

[digitalwanderer]

Uhm, is it 8 of the 12 pipes are "extreme" or is it 12 normal pipes and an addition 8 "extreme" ones making it 20 total?!?!

 

[Ilfirin]

neither one makes any sense.

 

[Psikotiko]

and encoding and decoding of many video standards, including MPEG1/2/4, Real Media, DivX and WMV9.

nice

Our Price: $499.00

For that price, better be faster than 6800 Ultra

 

[g__day]

Bugger, missed that post by an hour. But this topic is the 8/12 pixel pipeline architecture decision with said 6 gigapixels/second fill rate in full precision (fp24 or fp32?) six programmable vertex shader pipelines, capable of up to 7000 million vertices per second and an overall capability of over 140 million floating point operations per second. The other topic is labelled the desire to pre-order said card. This one is discussing its announced pipeline architecture

 

[JBark]

For that price, better be faster than 6800 Ultra

"up to two times the performance of the acclaimed RADEONâ„¢ 9800 PRO"
Judging by that quote, I'd imagine it's actually the same or a bit slower, since the 6800U seems to be pretty much double the performance of a 9800XT.

 

[T2k]

This one is discussing its announced pipeline architecture

Khm... let's just say 'predicted'...

 

[T2k]

For that price, better be faster than 6800 Ultra

"up to two times the performance of the acclaimed RADEONâ„¢ 9800 PRO"
Judging by that quote, I'd imagine it's actually the same or a bit slower, since the 6800U seems to be pretty much double the performance of a 9800XT.

Under what? 2D?

 

[Psikotiko]

What is "8 extreme pipelines"?
What could it be?

 

[BRiT]

*cough beyond PS 3.0 cough*

 

[g__day]

Obivously 8 of the 12 pipelines are either more feature rich, can work on more quads or pixels and/or can co-issue multiple instructions than the other 4 normal pipelines.

 

[Ilfirin]

or it's a typo

 

[BRiT]

Pretty clear to me now... 8 of the pipelines can extreme snowboard, while the other 4 pipes are left to be the judges...

 

[JBark]

Under what? 2D?

The second I hit post, I knew I'd regret it Ok, it's not double to perfomance all the time, but there are quite a few cases where it is, at least in the reviews I've read. Either way, the 9800XT is what, at least 10-20% faster than the 9800Pro? Knock 10-20% off the 9800XT scores in the 6800U reviews, and it's pretty much double all the time.

Of course, I'm probably reading to much into "up to 2x perf over 9800pro"

If that is the case howerver, then it does look like the 800XT will be faster than the 6800U if the 800Pro is pretty equal with the 6800U.

 

[DemoCoder]

I would guess that 8 of the pipelines are capable of dual-issue, so one of the quads will get processed slower than the other 2.

 

[g__day]

To me this implies the X800 XT will be 8 extreme and 8 normal pixel pipelines. As Dave stated it has 8 uber pipelines a while ago.

 

[kemosabe]

To me this implies the X800 XT will be 8 extreme and 8 normal pixel pipelines. As Dave stated it has 8 uber pipelines a while ago.

Sounds logical. But will we be seeing benchmarks for both the Pro and the XT on Tuesday? Sounds that way, since we've been told reviewers already have the XT, and they must have the Pro also if it's going on sale in a week. They'll be up all weekend benching and testing these features....and who still feels envious of those poor SOB reviewers?