Poor Rush

Marajuana is prescribed, Herion is not. Opiate derived drugs are prescribed, but Herion is a street drug and is chemically different than most other more "refined" opiates. There is a difference.

Also cocaine has been prescribed in the past, i am not sure if it still is. Back in the turn of the century it used to be called "snuff" and doctors prescribed it as a "pick me up". But fact is that "street" versions and "medicinal" versions exist of many different drugs but they are usually somewhat different in the end, at least in how they are "used". Take Ritalin for instance. It is Methalphenadate, which is very chemically simialar to Methamphetamine, which some people call "crank" or "speed" and can be made in your bathtub from easily obtained chemicals. Although I highly doubt the bathtub "crank" that steet-addicts, bikers and club-kids are snorting/shooting is as good a quality as the "crank" that doctors are prescribing to "overactive" children (ADD).

And for the record, I dont like Rush either. But conservative or liberal, he has a serious problem of drug additiction and is trying to do something about it (other than getting his maid to buy more dope for him). And for that he should be commended, as it is not an easy thing to do.

-stvn

 

Really? Odd...I don't see any quote where Limbaugh says throw away the key. (Your implication being, that drug users are not rehabilitable, or worthless?)

I see that Rush said they should be tried and convicted and sentenced. I don't see any of his comments going against that. Now, if Rush is tried, convicted, and sentences, and then he comes out and says "I don't deserve this", then you might have a point.

Please, please tell me you are being sarcastic and are not serious about that link to FreePressed....

 

Sounds like someone who touts himself as tolerant and compassionate, is making excuses being neither.

You didn't answer my question, btw....are you really serious about that last quote which you seem particularly "proud" of? The one that came from FreePressed?

I am making excuses for no one. I repeat: I have NO PITY for Rush and his drug use. And again, nor is he seeking any...nor is is placing blame or portraying himself as some victim. Which is the point.

 

In other words, I was correct. You are Mischaracterizing rush as having blamed someone else for his situation. How predictable of you.

No one ever said any such thing. But keep on arguing against that which was never said or implied. Him not victimizing himself does not make him a hero. It just makes him different than the vast majority of others who place blame on everything except themselves.

Um, when did he lie?

 

Do you purposely mischaracterize, or do you just not read?

I do not respect him for confessing. I respect him for not blaming his situation on others. Do you not understand the difference.

First of all, that's wouldn't be a lie.

Second of all, those quotes you pulled "railing against drug users" were from 1995, which predates (as far as we know) his drug use by a few years.

I don't believe I ever heard Rush claim that he doesn't have any demons.
And I'm a Christian, Natoma. I have a strong affiliation for Christian values...this doesn't mean I don't sin...nor do I claim that I don't sin.

Please. Someone who doesn't even see pirating music as "wrong", is critiqing other's moral perspective?

 

Stvn wrote:

Ah...not that kind of pain reliever. Sounds like what I said. After all natoma said "Heroine for instance is a powerful pain reliever, as are Opium, Morphine, and Marijuana" which you indeed agree we me that it is "in no way in the same class as Herion or other Opium derived "painkillers." Thought so

'Now I know being "stoned" nothing compared to the "zombifacation of long term "painkiller" use". And I can understand how being a little high can make difficult situations a little more tolerable. And yes it's great for fighting nausea and helping one's appetite. And your right that "fact is Marijuana has been used for thousands of years by most every culture in the world both medicinally (physical and psychological) and spiritually." These things I know. But it is not a powerful pain reliever as natoma stated, which was my original point to get across.

And for the record, yes I too have smoked a joint, so I do "know". I know all too well, having smoked for many years till I finally quit, along with quitting alcohol and cigarettes (after 26 years!).

 

This statement dissapoints me to a large extent epic.

 

Why its the truth. Unless you cant handle the truth.

later,
epic

 

Natoma, I must say that everytime you link something that would somehow validate your point, you usually just show how biased you really are. Here is a fantastic quote from freepressed:

Yeah that site is the bastian(sp?) of journalistic integrety. So as yet you havent proven that Rush blamed anyone but himself. Unlike clinton who did blame the vast right wing on national tv.

later,
epic

 

Yeah, who do you think told her that. And who told her to do it on tv.

later,
epic

 

Agreed. The great divide in the United States isn't between liberals and conservatives, it is between moderates and extremists. The hyperbole and rhetoric coming from both sides is enough to make me sick of the entire process.



And I hope that Rush gets the help that he needs. However, drug abuse is a subject that he has spoken about at great length, and he has not shown very much compassion towards those with substance abuse problems IMO.

Rush clearly knew he had a drug problem, and it is unfortunate that it took these allegations for him to admit to the problem. Now there are some reports that he may have ordered some of these prescriptions illegally and had them shipped to his home across state lines. This sounds like a felony, and I don't think any health issues can justify these activities.

 

The reason it dissapoints me is more than just the extremist thing, how well do you actually know Rush Epic? For all most of us know, he is a wonderful guy, or an absolute asshole. As such we haven't a clue to make statements like that.