Inuhanyou
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All I want..is for them to branch out to a single player story again. Just one new ip...
Phil Spencer Interview: Redfall Reviews, Activision Deal - Kinda Funny Xcast Ep. 137
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Besides poor IP management, could another reason for poor Series console sales be related to day-1 XB games titles being offered on PC? One of the reasons why I didn't get a XB console this generation. If Sony goes day-1 with their titles on PC (which I hope someday), there would be no reason for me to own another PlayStation gaming platform.
Inuhanyou
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Yes. Which is why Sony has resolved to never do it as they value their console platform(they kind of have to not having the ability to reach the PC audience in the way MS can with its inbuilt advantage)
There will always be a gap between first party releases atleast as far as non service based titles go
Honestly, it sounds as if he is planning on leaving or that he knows what's coming soon.
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IIRC I read somewhere that Sony bought them for a new online game and for them to help other Sony studios in making online games.
Inuhanyou
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Twitter fanboys are the worst
Yes, MS has pretty much told everyone they have lost the console war and it's not important to them. But it hasn't been important to them for years as we previously went over. It's not real news
Twitter fanboys are the worst
Not just Sony fanboys, but diehard Xbox gamers are calling Phil out, some even suggesting for him to step-down.
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I think Microsoft's biggest problem is that cannot seemingly accept carving out a good profitable business in a particular market, if they don't dominate they feel like they have failed. Perhaps this is what being a company built on dominating products like DOS, Windows and Office do to you. There must be so much pressure on Microsoft execs to do as well in every market and it's just not possible.
That, and as had been said a bunch of times, Microsoft just don't seem to know what Xbox is to them and change strategies at the drop of a hat. They are a software company and I think Microsoft could do really well leaving hardware behind because they clearly cannot sell hardware without loses, but they could be a fabulous game publisher.
That said, I do not want Microsoft to stop making Xbox hardware. I love my Series X and frankly, without a third competitor aiming at the same hardware performance envelope, I think Sony would get very lazy.
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Muppets.
Inuhanyou
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They are bad, but atleast they are demanding MS compete in the space they are in I suppose. Most hardcore Xbox fanboys I have seen will auto defend every decision made and every blunder possible. The same people saying games were not important a few years ago because the hw is good have been saying MS should buy up every major third party publisher in sight regardless of what it is, get mad when MSs ambitions are blocked and outright say to ignore regulator concerns and try to tank the UK economy just as payback for being stalled.
That for me is what is absolutely pathetic more than anything else, that people can be that far up a companies you know what
Post PS3 era, yes, the more conservative Sony will find ways to skimp on costly BOM parts, usually at the cost of hardware performance. So yes, Microsoft needs to stay.
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I do somewhat disagree with this. Nintendo and Sony have worked hard on the gaming market prior to MS ever joining it. And now with PC becoming more accessible than ever, the threat to Sony's console business would not go away with MS. They would still have to compete to keep people inside their console ecosystem which they still fully depend on. Buying playstation software from steam only has a limited contribution to their financials and PC users are not obligated to buy Sony software in the first place.
Agreed, but the release quality of their games are not meeting expectations. But IMO on average looking about par for the course for multiplatform titles.Twitter fanboys are the worst
Yes, MS has pretty much told everyone they have lost the console war and it's not important to them. But it hasn't been important to them for years as we previously went over. It's not real news
MS won't be able to rectify this unless they drop the number of platforms, or they rapidly resolve assist in development issues on the PC side of things, or they just need to learn the very hard way and take it slow, shore up the talent that is capable of doing multiplatform releases very well and spread that talent and knowledge around.
With MS giving up on console, they are committed to either cloud or to rough out the path that they are on today.
As a gamer, I found Phil's openness during the interview to be refreshing, but if I was a stockholder, I'd be like "come again!?"
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Microsoft are competing. Okay, Halo Infinite was a cluster, and Redfall is really bad, but Microsoft put out a lot of good quality content. It's the whole being third place thing, this is something that Microsoft and some Xbox owners need to fucking let go. You can be third place in a market of three and be both popular and profitable. Having to be number 1, or beat a competitor, is a very unhealthy mindset.
Exactly. Companies don't squander resources (including R&D spend) needlessly. You invest to compete and if there is less reason to compete and spend on tech, then you just don't.
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On the other hand though. It's not as if fighting to keep your position is not a thing. Sony outclassed MS by twice as much last gen but they didn't put their brakes on software output just because they were winning. I think PS3 really forced them to imprint a lesson that won't easily be forgotten
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One part of his his answers to question 7 that I struggle with, and which troubles me as an Xbox owner, (unless I missed it) is this:
Is he implying that producing great games is no longer considered to be something a priority because that's not going to beat Sony?Phil Spencer said:
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Microsoft can afford to have runs of bad quarters and bad years. Sony cannot. Not having a massive comfort blanket means your focus has to be laser sharp.
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That's the idea I got. That unless they can run Sony out of the console industry and force players to pick Xbox over playstation it's not worth doing.One part of his his answers to question 7 that I struggle with, and which troubles me as an Xbox owner, (unless I missed it) is this:
Is he implying that producing great games is no longer considered to be something a priority because that's not going to beat Sony?
When that never should have been the goal. Get people into your ecosystem even if they own a playstation. It doesn't have to get them to throw out their PS5. Unless MS just thinks consumers only fully dedicated to their ecosystem alone are all that matters? Considering how much they rely on subscription and engagement numbers I guess I can see that as their thinking. But it just also seems like an excuse to not do the bare minimum.
"Well we can't do anything anyway competing so we are just gonna buy up all the studios and force the market to us lmao"