LittlePenny
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In the July 2002 Game Developer I saw something a few of you might find interesting. The author is reviewing a Dell Precision Mobile Workstation M50, page 7.
David Stripinis said:
On the GeForce 4's naming conventions
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bah! how about another one of their naming problems? The Geforce 4 MX is nothing more than an advanced GF2 with some new features! No direct x 8.1 support, no vertex shaders, and a shintzy waste of time. They would have been better off calling it the Geforce 2 Gold, although i'm sure they would have sold less then...
Richthofen
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bah! how about another one of their naming problems? The Geforce 4 MX is nothing more than an advanced GF2 with some new features! No direct x 8.1 support, no vertex shaders, and a shintzy waste of time. They would have been better off calling it the Geforce 2 Gold, although i'm sure they would have sold less then...
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So what?
That is what marketing is about.
I like the GF4MX because it's a successfull product and makes a lot of money
BTW I have a GF4Ti.
That is what i like about nvidia - besides their pretty good products - they have the best marketing in the 3D industry.
Get information before you buy and everything will be allright.
If you dont... well than you deserve it
bah! how about another one of their naming problems? The Geforce 4 MX is nothing more than an advanced GF2 with some new features! No direct x 8.1 support, no vertex shaders, and a shintzy waste of time. They would have been better off calling it the Geforce 2 Gold, although i'm sure they would have sold less then...
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So what?
That is what marketing is about.
I like the GF4MX because it's a successfull product and makes a lot of money
BTW I have a GF4Ti.
That is what i like about nvidia - besides their pretty good products - they have the best marketing in the 3D industry.
Get information before you buy and everything will be allright.
If you dont... well than you deserve it
Richthofen said:Get information before you buy and everything will be allright. If you dont... well than you deserve it
I don't agree with that. Yes, an attentive consumer should notice that the box they're picking up at the local Best Buy reads GF4 MX instead of just GF4, but even if they do notice the name, and price, differences most people will assume that the MX model is a striped down variant of the regular GF4s. The catch lies in the assumption that the two products share the same architecture, since otherwise the naming convention would reflect this, and this simply is a far cry from the truth. The 8500LE is a good example of fair marketing, while the GF4 MXs are just blatantly disingenuous (blatant to those in the know).
A friend of mine got a 1.33 GHz Thunderbird system last summer with a GF 2 MX 200 (!!!). He called me and told me that he had tried to find an explanation to his low Counter-Strike fps scores; he was expecting GF 2 GTS scores.
Confusing consumers is not an acceptable way of marketing. He recently upgraded to a 8500LE, swearing never to buy nVidia again.
Cheers
Gubbi
Confusing consumers is not an acceptable way of marketing. He recently upgraded to a 8500LE, swearing never to buy nVidia again.
Cheers
Gubbi
Richthofen
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don't agree with that. Yes, an attentive consumer should notice that the box they're picking up at the local Best Buy reads GF4 MX instead of just GF4, but even if they do notice the name, and price, differences most people will assume that the MX model is a striped down variant of the regular GF4s. The catch lies in the assumption that the two products share the same architecture, since otherwise the naming convention would reflect this, and this simply is a far cry from the truth. The 8500LE is a good example of fair marketing, while the GF4 MXs are just blatantly disingenuous (blatant to those in the know).
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well as i said get information concerning your next buy. Information about price and names is not enough at all.
Before you buy read hardware tests online and in journals.
That is collection information. Understand what your new product is able to do.
That has nothing to do with PC Hardware. It is everywhere the same.
If you dont collect information and compare a lot the possibility is high that you buy the wrong thing.
But then ... so what - i dont care about dumb people.
This society is all about information. If you dont make use of that then you deserve it
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Confusing consumers is not an acceptable way of marketing. He recently upgraded to a 8500LE, swearing never to buy nVidia again.
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Well dont agree with that. The majority of customer wants to get betrayed.
He says he wont buy nvidia anmymore..
In the time he told you that a lot more people change from ATI to Nvidia.
People forget pretty fast.
Ask him in 1 or 2 years again or just imagine there is a stunning product from nvidia which blows everything away an the planet.
I promise you he will consider to buy Nvidia again
Nvidia messed it up with him because of marketing.
ATI messed it up with a lot more people with drivers so what?
I dont think Nvidia has to care about that small number.
The Majority of people is not very intelligent and will keep on buying that stuff. And the majority of the press and online magazines will do their part that it happens that way
Well not Beyond3D but a many others.
Thats what business is about - not funny though but just keep in mind what you are going to do if you wanna sell some of your used products on ebay
I know what i am doing there. Pretty same way like Nvidia Intel or MS.
PS: Sorry for my bad English. My German should be a lot better
Friday it's Payback Time - Germany will win trust me
don't agree with that. Yes, an attentive consumer should notice that the box they're picking up at the local Best Buy reads GF4 MX instead of just GF4, but even if they do notice the name, and price, differences most people will assume that the MX model is a striped down variant of the regular GF4s. The catch lies in the assumption that the two products share the same architecture, since otherwise the naming convention would reflect this, and this simply is a far cry from the truth. The 8500LE is a good example of fair marketing, while the GF4 MXs are just blatantly disingenuous (blatant to those in the know).
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well as i said get information concerning your next buy. Information about price and names is not enough at all.
Before you buy read hardware tests online and in journals.
That is collection information. Understand what your new product is able to do.
That has nothing to do with PC Hardware. It is everywhere the same.
If you dont collect information and compare a lot the possibility is high that you buy the wrong thing.
But then ... so what - i dont care about dumb people.
This society is all about information. If you dont make use of that then you deserve it
"
Confusing consumers is not an acceptable way of marketing. He recently upgraded to a 8500LE, swearing never to buy nVidia again.
"
Well dont agree with that. The majority of customer wants to get betrayed.
He says he wont buy nvidia anmymore..
In the time he told you that a lot more people change from ATI to Nvidia.
People forget pretty fast.
Ask him in 1 or 2 years again or just imagine there is a stunning product from nvidia which blows everything away an the planet.
I promise you he will consider to buy Nvidia again
Nvidia messed it up with him because of marketing.
ATI messed it up with a lot more people with drivers so what?
I dont think Nvidia has to care about that small number.
The Majority of people is not very intelligent and will keep on buying that stuff. And the majority of the press and online magazines will do their part that it happens that way
Well not Beyond3D but a many others.
Thats what business is about - not funny though but just keep in mind what you are going to do if you wanna sell some of your used products on ebay
I know what i am doing there. Pretty same way like Nvidia Intel or MS.
PS: Sorry for my bad English. My German should be a lot better
Friday it's Payback Time - Germany will win trust me