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scooby_dooby
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Yup, rather than using slingshots, boomerangs, hookshots etc etc, you use the different abilities of the creatures to solve the puzzles. Definately a ton of potential in the idea.
DuckThor Evil
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Acert93 said:
the first Condemned videos I saw, didn't really impress me that much, but it is starting to seem like we have true gem here, I keep hearing people praising this game everywhere. It seems to be a must buy game for me.
Yep, it was surprising to see comments about painfully variable frame rate, some "jerky" motion blur effect and rather aggressive LOD mentioned in one of the articlesexpletive said:Only thing i'm at all surprised about is someone calling PGR3 (pretty good).
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rabidrabbit said:
One of the ways they are optimizing is running a very computationally intensive program that caculates what is visible in any given scene so the engine knows what to load and draw. I can imagine that they have many versions of the same cities that have gone through different levels of this sort of optimization. London the example given in the article is probably not done being optimized. This optimization is probably why some levels have really bad pop up but others don't.
You mean all the cities are not yet LOD optimized, having perhaps too much detail for the LOD engine? Does that mean many of those screens we've seen and awed at have been from these higher detail, unoptimized levels straight from the devkits where framerate really doesn't matter... like those extremely high detail building faces that Bizarre said were what we'd see in the final game?robofunk said:
Hopefully they can sort the optimizations before launch.. they do have a month or so before the game releases.
rabidrabbit said:
The thing is that the engine has to be able to deal with any kind of track a person can think up. If they didn't have user created tracks I think they wouldn't have any problems. It's not so much a LOD problem but more of a streaming management problem. They have said they've fixed the popup bugs in a recent build.
I have no doubt that the screens are in game. If you saw them showing off the screenshot mode in the european X05 sneek preview you'll see that the popup is there also. When they had the bug they only released screens that didn't have the problem obviously.
mckmas8808
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scooby_dooby said:
No I said that Sony has given me 10 years of great gaming and that I won't be buying a Xbox 360. Now if Sony totally fails then I will have to choose another console provider. I had a Nintendo, Super Nintendo, jumped ship and brought a Sega Saturn, and then got stab by them so I brought a Playstation. But if Sony continues to do what they always do then it will be Sony for me. Nothing wrong with that right?
mckmas8808 said:
I think that brand loyalty does pretty much equal 'f4nb0i-ism'. That said, theres not a whole lot wrong with that. Lots of people buy for those reasons and you see it with cars, appliances, clothes, etc.
If your stance is basically ' for me, sony has earned the right to at least 'wait and see' ', and youll judge both consoles on equal ground once they're both available, then thats much less about brand loyalty and more about making an educated purchase decision.
Either way youre not "wrong" imo. Its just the behavior of the immature 'brand loyalists' on this board that give that notion a bad name.
For me, every company has to earn their way with every generation. With consoles ive historically owned more than one so i may not 'choose' this generation but if i had to, i dont think its good for the inudstry as a whole to let a Sony rest on its laurels and not EARN your purchase every single generation.
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expletive said:
Haven't they done anything to earn people's purchases in this generation?
I agree that Sony is in the position to rest for a while, but it's almost obvious they will deliver the goods - the games - whatever happens. Same for everyone else.
They don't need to earn anyone's "trust". If you like their product, buy it, if you don't, don't buy it.
Obviously people will look at history and "feel safe" knowing that the last 2 generations with Sony were VERY good. Nothing to do with ******ism, anyone looking at the last 2 generations will think that Sony will most probably deliver very good games for its new playstation. All the rest (lots of connectivity, Bloodyray, USB, P2P, PPP, PPU, SPU, BooBooBoo...) is all gravy.
I'd say ******ism is a constant need to reference a brand, and not unswerving loyalty. That means when talking about one console, an FB will come in and bring in their favourite on an often lose relation to the discussion. You'll get people who were Nintendo ******s raving about Nintendo, and then switch to PS and become Sony fb's when Nintendo know longer offers the best experience. The 'Fan' from '******' comes from an abbreviation of 'Fanatic', which has nothing to do with loyalty.
In the context of the article, which was about XB360's launch and lineup, one person responded with reference to the only PS3 comment in that huge long article without expressing the slightest opinion on the XB360 information in the rest of the article...
And regards the article's comment, I agree that you don't have to be a ****** to prefer to wait for PS3 then shell out $400+ on XB360 if it doesn't have the games you want. However talking about PS3 in this thread seem very misplaced to me.
In the context of the article, which was about XB360's launch and lineup, one person responded with reference to the only PS3 comment in that huge long article without expressing the slightest opinion on the XB360 information in the rest of the article...
And regards the article's comment, I agree that you don't have to be a ****** to prefer to wait for PS3 then shell out $400+ on XB360 if it doesn't have the games you want. However talking about PS3 in this thread seem very misplaced to me.
london-boy said:Haven't they done anything to earn people's purchases in this generation?
I agree that Sony is in the position to rest for a while, but it's almost obvious they will deliver the goods - the games - whatever happens. Same for everyone else.
They don't need to earn anyone's "trust". If you like their product, buy it, if you don't, don't buy it.
Obviously people will look at history and "feel safe" knowing that the last 2 generations with Sony were VERY good. Nothing to do with ******ism, anyone looking at the last 2 generations will think that Sony will most probably deliver very good games for its new playstation. All the rest (lots of connectivity, Bloodyray, USB, P2P, PPP, PPU, SPU, BooBooBoo...) is all gravy.
I agree that Sony will deliver but thats not really my point. My point is which console will deliver the 'better' product. (And i acknowledge that 'better' is different for different people, some people place more emphasis online, etc).
For example, Sony could deliver the PS3 has tons of awesome games and it be a great system, a worthy successor to the PS2. But what if Nintendo or Mircorosoft realize their visions even beyond their own expectations, an incredible library of exclusive, an online experience, a community, whatever it is- its better than the rest (again, acknowledging 'better' is judged on a case by case basis).
It really has nothing to do with trust, if SOny cant deliver a great console or great gaming experience it would be catastrophic, on of the biggest corporate failures ever. The question is how is thier product going to be relative to their competitors, and relative to your priorities as a gamer. Just becuase the PS2 was best for you last gen doesnt mean it will be this gen. And if you can only afford one console and base your decision on their past performance you could bet setting yourself up for disappointment. This isnt a one-way street either, it goes for everyone, including people that owned only XBoxes or gamecubes last gen.
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mckmas8808
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Shifty Geezer said:
I agree with this comment here. Yet at the sametime you must have noticed that the part I was referencing was in the article. I agree if it wasn't in the article and I just started talking about the PS3 then your assertion would be right about me in this instance. Yet I was questioning the article. And the sad thing is I was questioning the article in a negative way about the PS3.
It clearly stated that the PS3 would be stronger and I questioned that. How would something like that make me a f&nboii?
People don't always go wtih the best. If they're favourite brand is good enough, they won't go looking for an alternative. There's probably a fair few people who'd enjoy the games on XB or GC more than the ones they've got on PS2, but they are content with PS2 and suitably disinterested to look at alternatives.
It's this same attitude that keeps people with the same bank for years, same services, same insurance etc. And for those that switch I know of lots of stories where they rate the new services as worse than the old one. Hence, better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
As long as PS3 is good enough, it'll keep mindshare even if the rivals are better. The same way Sony managed for years (and still does to some people) to still sell on the Sony brand in CE goods even though there were cheaper, better rivals.
It's this same attitude that keeps people with the same bank for years, same services, same insurance etc. And for those that switch I know of lots of stories where they rate the new services as worse than the old one. Hence, better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
As long as PS3 is good enough, it'll keep mindshare even if the rivals are better. The same way Sony managed for years (and still does to some people) to still sell on the Sony brand in CE goods even though there were cheaper, better rivals.
In my estimation, because in that entire article the only thing you found to talk about was PS3. It's the interest you have in PS that seems overriding. Another example was a discussion about Revolution's controller, and you made a post to say Sony must have been very pleased when they heard of Nintendo's new controller as it'd somehow help sell their EyeToy gameplay. Very often you (and others) with a preferred console will bring in their preffered console where often it has no point in belonging. One spurious remark from one article writer about PS3 being better in several pages of talk on XB360's showing an X05, and that's the only point you thought worth talking about.mckmas8808 said:
Shifty Geezer said:
Agreed, and yet i think this is a flawed decision making process. If youre going to spend $400 on something why not get whats best (for you)?
IMO, buying something becuase its your favorite brand and not based on an some sort of objective comparison or assessment, combined with the immature bickering backing up their approach on forums are really the core attributes of 'the FB'.
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mckmas8808
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Shifty Geezer said:
I hear you, but when did it actually become illegal to talk about another company in a thread? In this thread I clearly brung it up for a good reason. In that Nintendo controller it also made sense to bring the eyetoy. I was also complimenting Nintendo for opening peoples eyes to changing the way people play games.
They did the same when they made the analog stick for the N64 controller and rumble pack. They encouraged others to follow, which in turn helped out the gaming industry as a whole. With MS having such a great online service this gen, they have basically made it impossible to have a next gen console without a online machine. MS has helped the console industry a lot because of this.
A Sony f&nboi wouldn't admit that so openly. I do this all the time. I openly discuss the facts about all consoles makers. And I do the same with my opinions too. I actually defended the Xbox 360 and I get labeled a f@nboyy.
Bottom line Shifty I respect darn near everything you say, just stop labeling me.
expletive said:
I always thought that's what most people do.
True. I always research my big purchases, but I know a lot of people who simply go with recommendations from friends. That's why mindshare I think is more important than technical importance and game variety than anything else when it comes to being number one at selling.expletive said:
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