NV is a company,and it depends on selling card to make money. what it does is to meke its card more attractive hence more people will buy their product. As the beginners(someone who's gonna buy their computer for the first time) don't know much about 3D technology. they only trust paper print or website. and i think the performace of R300 based card makes them more "attractive" to the beginners hence helps the sells of ATI. Standing on this point,NV's whinning about 3dmark03 is acceptable because its biggest customers are beginners rather than you guys here