NVIDIA Tegra Architecture

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Faster than the competing Nexus 7 (2013 version), but holy hell does the Tegra 4 tablet use a lot of power in comparison.

For 30 dollars less, you get less memory, a LOT less battery life (4+ hours less in web browsing and 3+ hours less under video playback), a lower resolution screen, slightly more weight, slightly thicker, and no wireless charging. But you do get decent pen input.

For most people I don't see the point of the device unless they need a cheap device with pen input. And even then, it appears to lack decent apps to take advantage of the pen input.

Regards,
SB
 
For many people, the lack of expandable storage is a deal breaker.

Nonetheless, it's undoubtedly a better gaming tablet than the Nexus 7 2013, even more with nVidia eventually bringing the game streaming app from the Shield.
 
Faster than the competing Nexus 7 (2013 version), but holy hell does the Tegra 4 tablet use a lot of power in comparison.

Seems like some reviewers didn't test (or know how to test) with power saving modes enabled.

Here we can see that the Tegra Note’s power-saving features scale up exactly how they should. The poorest time is achieved on the High Performance mode with PRISM off. Turning PRISM on nets the device an additional 30 minutes of battery life. Turning PRISM back off and switching to Power Savings mode adds yet another 30 minutes to the Tegra Note’s mobile longevity. Finally, we turn PRISM back on in Power Savings mode to gain yet another hour!

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-tegra-note-7-evga-tablet-review,3668-12.html
 
Faster than the competing Nexus 7 (2013 version), but holy hell does the Tegra 4 tablet use a lot of power in comparison.

For 30 dollars less, you get less memory, a LOT less battery life (4+ hours less in web browsing and 3+ hours less under video playback), a lower resolution screen, slightly more weight, slightly thicker, and no wireless charging. But you do get decent pen input.

For most people I don't see the point of the device unless they need a cheap device with pen input. And even then, it appears to lack decent apps to take advantage of the pen input.

Regards,
SB
I agree with your points, but Nvidia says its a gaming tablet, so performance is the key and positioning is right. Compare to N7, its so much faster in 3D (2 to 3 times at native resolution), thus it will have much longer life span (very smart to use a HD screen instead of FHD).
That being said, not sure it will be a success. For that, Nvidia needs a strong android gaming market that is obviously not here (yet)
 
(very smart to use a HD screen instead of FHD).

I don't think they went for an HD screen to improve performance, but to cut costs. The quality of the screen doesn't seem to be that great either according to the few reviews I've read. They way you're proclaiming it to be smart almost sounds like you're selling a bug as a feature. Though it would be more accurate to say that the lack of a feature is considered to be a positive thing.
 
I don't think they went for an HD screen to improve performance, but to cut costs. The quality of the screen doesn't seem to be that great either according to the few reviews I've read. They way you're proclaiming it to be smart almost sounds like you're selling a bug as a feature. Though it would be more accurate to say that the lack of a feature is considered to be a positive thing.
No, I stand by my words, on 7" tablet, for 3D gaming, with current SoCs performance, better to have HD resolution than FHD. They are some games that are already not smooth in FHD on a Nexus 7 2013 (Dead Trigger 2 for example).
Its like saying better to have a FHD display than 4K with a GTX770.
It's called the right resolution for the right performance.
 
Isn't this the reason why they often render at lower than native resolution and then scale up? Doesn't sound like that bad of a solution to me and you still get the benefit of a higher DPI screen while browsing the web for example.
 
For many people, the lack of expandable storage is a deal breaker.

Nonetheless, it's undoubtedly a better gaming tablet than the Nexus 7 2013, even more with nVidia eventually bringing the game streaming app from the Shield.

Not sure if the game streaming app will come since the Tegra Note doesn't have enough Wi-fi bandwidth (no 5 GHz).
 
Isn't this the reason why they often render at lower than native resolution and then scale up? Doesn't sound like that bad of a solution to me and you still get the benefit of a higher DPI screen while browsing the web for example.
Yep but I don't know if its done on android (on iOS, yes).

That being said, don't get me wrong, the Nexus 7 2013 offers a better overall experience than Tegra Note. Only if 3D gaming and stylus support are important that the T4 tablet is a better choice.
 
Isn't this the reason why they often render at lower than native resolution and then scale up? Doesn't sound like that bad of a solution to me and you still get the benefit of a higher DPI screen while browsing the web for example.

Exactly. And most Android games involve fairly basic 2D graphics that Tegra 4 (or the Nexus 7, for that matter) could easily render in 1920×1200, which would be nice and sharp.

The 720p display is about hitting the $199 mark, nothing more. And that's not necessarily a bad thing either.
 
AnandTech states that the Tegra Tab will be incompatible with GameStream because it doesn't have enough WiFi bandwidth. Here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review/6


40Mbps isn't enough to get a 720p H.264 video stream?
Oh come on..

Furthermore, the statement sounds more like some wild assumption from the reviewer than something nVidia stated..

nVidia first demoed GameStream in a Transformer Prime, which is a Tegra 3 tablet with single-channel 2.4GHz WiFi N tablet.
 
Would nvidia have come out with this if google had used the T4 for the 2013 Nexus 7?

Is this product going to make it more or less likely that google will turn to nvidia the next time they revise the Nexus 7?
 
Is this product going to make it more or less likely that google will turn to nvidia the next time they revise the Nexus 7?

I figure that Google is smart enough to not let the Tegra Note influence their future SoC decisions. They'll get what works best for them for a given product. That all depends on performance, power consumption, ease of integration and use, availability, feature set, price etc.
 
Would nvidia have come out with this if google had used the T4 for the 2013 Nexus 7?

Is this product going to make it more or less likely that google will turn to nvidia the next time they revise the Nexus 7?

I'm not sure what about the Tegra Note would make Google reconsider their choice of components.

For Nexus 7 it looks like the focus was on low cost + good battery life + high resolution screen. None of which the Tegra Note is particularly good at.

For 30 dollars less you end up with hardware that...

- Has 1 GB less memory.
- Has a 1280x800 screen versus a 1920x1080 screen.
- Has 25% less battery life.
- Doesn't support wireless charging.

On the other hand you get...

- Better performance.
- Expandable storage.
- Decent pen support.

Looking at it from a specs POV, it does look like what Nvidia thought an upgraded Nexus 7 should be. It's the same as the original Nexus 7, except with upgraded processor, expandable storage, pen support, and upgraded camera.

Google decided to go another direction. So what Nvidia was pitching for the 2013 Nexus 7, they instead end up having to try to sell on their own.

And it's probably a good choice by Google as Baytrail based Windows tablets are getting quite competitive from a battery life PoV.

Regards,
SB
 
- Has 25% less battery life.

That is when NO Power Saving modes are enabled.

Gaming battery life goes up 50% (from 4 to 6 hours) when Power Saving mode is enabled.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-tegra-note-7-evga-tablet-review,3668-12.html

Also note that the Google Nexus 7 (2013) that you seen to love has even less battery life (3hr 49m) in gaming than the Tegra Note 7 when it is in non-power mode (3hr 56m) and that the Tegra Note 7 blows away the Google Nexus 7 (2013) when power saving is enabled (5hr 52m).
 
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40Mbps isn't enough to get a 720p H.264 video stream?
Oh come on..

Furthermore, the statement sounds more like some wild assumption from the reviewer than something nVidia stated..

nVidia first demoed GameStream in a Transformer Prime, which is a Tegra 3 tablet with single-channel 2.4GHz WiFi N tablet.

You can be likely to suffer from wireless congestion, though that depends on where you live and time of day. 2.4GHz is crowded, 5.5GHz Wifi is a bad omission if you want to push real time interactive streaming.

Else I agree the usability and cost compromises are good. At least it's 1280x800 not 1280x720. Nice (typing this on a 15" 1280x800).
Pen support is a defining feature, I'd love to try it. Tablets / fat phones with only the finger look almost unusable to me, or computing devices inferior to paper.

It's like nvidia has users that want to do something, and it knows it so it caters to them.
Only Android is not so much something I want to run (spyware spyware spyware)
 
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