NVIDIA Tegra Architecture
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I would think we are looking at a tegra 3 derivative, which running on something with ui priority and sans ui overskin bloat means it will fly like a butterfly and sting like bee 
Don't buy the nexus...
Don't buy the nexus...
I would think we are looking at a tegra 3 derivative, which running on something with ui priority and sans ui overskin bloat means it will fly like a butterfly and sting like bee
Don't buy the nexus...
Nexus devices dont have UI skins or any bloatware installed
Not to mention he could just get an iPad if he wanted smoothness. For the same price, you get a much better screen and a much bigger ecosystem. Windows RT is just as locked down and can only download Metro apps. So it will be another Windows Phone until developers start porting their apps to the Metro store. Its the X86 version that can run legacy apps and is "open"
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Yes but it runs android which is now very very good, but will never be completely smooth.
The new ipod screen is very nice indeed, but ios will be even more limited than w8 metro...it lacks the processing power for the screen resolution as some games run better for ipad 2 so I hear.
Assuming one is willing to trade freedom for smoothness. And even if you want to do that, why would you pick a tablet with the smallest ecosystem over the tablet with the largest?
Besides, Nexus tablet is Tegra 3 with 720p screen for 199 dollars. Surface RT is roughly similar resolution with a higher clocked Tegra and more storage for 500-700 dollars. Big difference in price here
uhm if iOS is limited because iPad 3 games lack some lighting and particle effects, what does that say of W8 RT wich doesnt even have any of these games?
By the time Surface RT is released, iPad 3 will be getting a holiday discount as Apple prepares for their next gen using Rogue wich should help negate some of the gaming performance issues.
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Yes apps being a good point, but it's only the top 100 apps that make the difference, the fact wp8 will also run nearly the same apps which will be an incentive, of course that's assuming both sell well...which with obvious well entrenched competition is not guaranteed...its 50/50 for me, if Microsoft can't make this take off then there out permanently in my opinion.
Where are you getting prices from??
Where are you getting prices from??
Have there been concrete examples of the iPad 3 being noticeably slower than an iPad 2 in games? If so, it kinda undermines my position, which is that GPU perf is already high enough in tablets for pretty much all usage as is.Jubei said:
I have yet to see any slowness on mine, but then there aren't any graphics intensive games installed. (Draw Something, Angry Fowl, some dumb karaoke game that tweenage girls seem to like etc.)
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THe iPad 3 is lower than the iPad 2 only when games are being rendered at the screens native resolution which is just too much for the GPU in the A5X to handle. At the same res both Pad's perform the same..
Its not a fact that it will run the same apps until it actually does run the same apps mate
Microsoft said prices will be competitive with current ARM tablets. The 32 GB Transformer Prime is roughly 600 dollars. Also Digitimes claims Pegatron got the contract and the price will be over 599. Of course the latter is pure speculation considering the source
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Again we can only go on what is being banded about, I think it's safe to assume there the same..or at least very minimal effort to port from one to the other due to the same kernel.
You logic makes sense with regards to transformer prime comparisons, also the build of it looks to be high end plus quite expensive...so it isn't going to be the cheapest
However your price range of $199 for a tegra 3 nexus tablet looks a tad optimistic, unless that was a typo?? It would take all of that just to manufacturer the thing and even then I doubt Google would want to upset lots partners by undercutting them all...
I'm kinda disappointed they didn't put a 1080p screen on the windows rt .. something like a lcd 2 ips panel found on the one x would be amazing don't you think?
You logic makes sense with regards to transformer prime comparisons, also the build of it looks to be high end plus quite expensive...so it isn't going to be the cheapest
However your price range of $199 for a tegra 3 nexus tablet looks a tad optimistic, unless that was a typo?? It would take all of that just to manufacturer the thing and even then I doubt Google would want to upset lots partners by undercutting them all...
I'm kinda disappointed they didn't put a 1080p screen on the windows rt .. something like a lcd 2 ips panel found on the one x would be amazing don't you think?
Again we can only go on what is being banded about, I think it's safe to assume there the same..or at least very minimal effort to port from one to the other due to the same kernel.
You logic makes sense with regards to transformer prime comparisons, also the build of it looks to be high end plus quite expensive...so it isn't going to be the cheapest
However your price range of $199 for a tegra 3 nexus tablet looks a tad optimistic, unless that was a typo?? It would take all of that just to manufacturer the thing and even then I doubt Google would want to upset lots partners by undercutting them all...
I'm kinda disappointed they didn't put a 1080p screen on the windows rt .. something like a lcd 2 ips panel found on the one x would be amazing don't you think?
It will take minimal effort to make X86 Metro app to run on Win8 RT. But all of the old classic legacy apps have to be ported over to Metro first. So reality is that Win RT has like 10 apps right now and will be an underdog until all the old legacy apps get ported
I might be wrong on the 199 but Asus was planning a 249 dollar tablet themselves even before Google stepped in. Given that they want to destroy Kindle Fire, i suspect the sweet spot is 199
BTW Windows Phone 8 conference is happening right now
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Yea I'll take your word on that, however kindle fire is android is it not? :/
Aha cool well I'm gonna get a live feed of what's happening!!
For its iPhone 4S review, Anandtech created its own benchmark across different platforms by compiling Unreal engine. I wish they continued to do so for later reviews, but they didn't. It would be great to compare iPad 2 vs iPad 3 @ 10x7 vs iPad 3 @ native vs Tegra etc.Ike Turner said:
No they don't :smile:
MyDrivers.com with some Wayne Tegra 4 information: http://news.mydrivers.com/1/232/232173.htm
64 CUDA cores (probably Kepler) @520MHz
Measured shader performance at laboratory:
64 CUDA cores (probably Kepler) @520MHz
Measured shader performance at laboratory:
6x Adreno 320 @ APQ8064
4x SGX544MP2 @ OMAP5
4x SGX544MP2 @ OMAP5
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Well we will believe it when we see it, tegra 3 certainly wasn't 5x the performance increase they promised in any metric.
I don't remember there being 12 cores either.
still if it really is based on keplar then I really do believe that's possible...of course many will argue that it cant be based on keplar because a pc card couldn't scale down that low..but I digress.
I don't remember there being 12 cores either.
still if it really is based on keplar then I really do believe that's possible...of course many will argue that it cant be based on keplar because a pc card couldn't scale down that low..but I digress.
Depends on the perspective; just because at best ALUs share some common ground with desktop ALUs it doesn't make them automatically "Kepler ALUs".
As for the supposed performance predictions I can only call for bullshit at this stage. Adreno320 might not be too far away in terms of unit count and the Wayne GPU being 6x times that, sounds like a very tall order.
***edit: by the way...what was it again that Wayne is supposedly only 2x times faster as a SoC compared to Kal-El?
As for the supposed performance predictions I can only call for bullshit at this stage. Adreno320 might not be too far away in terms of unit count and the Wayne GPU being 6x times that, sounds like a very tall order.
***edit: by the way...what was it again that Wayne is supposedly only 2x times faster as a SoC compared to Kal-El?
Looks like recycled info from one of their previous rumours on the 29th of March: http://news.mydrivers.com/1/223/223107.htm
That story had so many things wrong it's hard to count really (Adreno 225 in APQ8064 instead of 320, saying OMAP5 is 300MHz and implying it's much slower than the PS Vita, quoting BSN, etc...) - it looks more like uninformed speculation to me. And 520*64*2 is only 67GFlops anyway, I personally wouldn't be very impressed by that...
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