True. The automotive space is quite a bit different than the consumer space in that it requires much more effort than simply being a high volume chipset supplier with the fastest time to market. The hardware and software stack need to be extremely robust. And considering that NVIDIA's clients include many luxury car and sport car companies such as Audi, BMW, Tesla, Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini, these clients are not necessarily interested in a race to the bottom dollar for their in-car electronics. In fact, an SoC such as Tegra K1 has quite a lot of compute horsepower (relatively speaking) and will save these companies quite a lot of money for advanced computing technology compared to what they used in the past. To make a long story short, the electronics chipsets are not a commodity in the automotive space.
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True. The automotive space is quite a bit different than the consumer space in that it requires much more effort than simply being a high volume chipset supplier with the fastest time to market. The hardware and software stack need to be extremely robust. And considering that NVIDIA's clients include many luxury car and sport car companies such as Audi, BMW, Tesla, Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini, these clients are not necessarily interested in a race to the bottom dollar for their in-car electronics. In fact, an SoC such as Tegra K1 has quite a lot of compute horsepower (relatively speaking) and will save these companies quite a lot of money for advanced computing technology compared to what they used in the past. To make a long story short, the electronics chipsets are not a commodity in the automotive space.
9 or whatever fps is just the medium or if you prefer average result between the two test runs so far. First was at 7.7 fps and second at 11.5 fps http://gfxbench.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=Lenovo+K1+HD+%282014%29&id=545&benchmark=gfx30
There's about a 60% difference in offscreen fillrate between the two.
Judging by the older results here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-thinkvision-28-nvidia-tegra-k1-android,25733.html
There's at least 2x times more performance lurking in there if they clock it higher.
http://www.cnet.com/news/nvidias-tegra-4i-chip-powers-secure-blackphone/
Another design win for T4i.
Another design win for T4i.
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Is powered by a Nvidia SOC. Either the K1 or the T4.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hp-slatebook-android-laptop,26648.html
Is powered by a Nvidia SOC. Either the K1 or the T4.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hp-slatebook-android-laptop,26648.html
This is getting off-topic, but anyway; The iphone 5S was released last year and has the OS tailor fitted to its hardware, additionally many people have complained about the lack of RAM.
The iphone 6 will have at least 2GB.
Generalizing to make it slightly back on topic: it's a given that you need more RAM on an OS that uses GC instead of reference counted memory, but is there any indication even on Android that 1GB is severely limiting? How would it a user even know? On an almost 2 year old, iPhone 5, it has never even entered my mind that something was amiss on the memory front. Is this really much different for Android?
Highly relative to how you handle your applications; if you browse the web with a fair amount of tabs in Android (it doesn't make much difference which browser you use) you will notice the lack of ram more than once, but nothing IMO that makes it completely unbearable.
iOS is obviously quite a different chapter; first and foremost because there's no 2GB current iPhone to compare it with the 1GB ones.
For a >$600 device 1GB looks bad, but bite me folks who here really thinks that it would had been a sizeable sales success if it would have had even 3GB of ram?
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It implemented zram, which compresses memory just like doublespace did to the hard drive in good old MS-DOS 6.2
Well, you swap to a compressed ramdisk to be more precise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zram
Well, you swap to a compressed ramdisk to be more precise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zram
For a mainstream/low end device definitely. "Just fine" and "more than enough" is highly relative to someone's demands. I don't do a lot of fancy stuff myself on a smartphone, but I wouldn't suggest either that 2 and 3GB ram amounts on current and upcoming high end smartphones are complete overkill either.
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I thought the L2 would be 512 kilobytes?
Interesting part - http://developer.download.nvidia.com/embedded/jetson/TK1/docs/Jetson_platform_brief_May2014.pdf
Some numbers from paper - 13*2.5 = 32.5 fps in GLB3.0 1080p offscreen at 7W(AP+DRAM) on unoptimized OS and platform, should be ~5W(AP+DRAM) on Andoid (1.5x perf of A7 at constant power 2605 mW on mobile OS + LPDDR3, while unoptimized Linux version + DDR3L consume 3660 mW, 3660/2605 = 1,405 or 6980 / 1.405 = 4968 mW for full clocked version)
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Performance for those 32.5 fps in Manhattan offscreen was measured on the Jetson K1 board (which is not optimized for mobile power levels), yet the 7,29 fps/W were obtained from a mobile optimized platform. One result is not necessarily directly connected to the other.
As a close second from the original 365 GFLOPs I saw recently 326 GFLOPs figures being mentioned and now it's suddenly just >300 GFLOPs. Either someone was just bored to calculate the 326 GFLOPs or not all Jetson K1 boards have the same GPU frequency.
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NVIDIA Tegra K1 SoC Finally Detailed, Has 5-8W TDP, 11W at Top Load
So much for that 60 watt hit piece.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Tegr...led-Has-5-8W-TDP-11W-at-Top-load-439981.shtml
So much for that 60 watt hit piece.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Tegr...led-Has-5-8W-TDP-11W-at-Top-load-439981.shtml
Another Article Link: http://wccftech.com/stats-nvidia-tegra-k1-superchip-wattage-finally-revealed
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