I'm sure they are disappointed by the fact that they could have had the same performance a year and half earlier.
Don't quite understand what you're trying to say. If they wanted it a year and a half earlier they would've bought a 780 Ti for $699.
I'm sure they are disappointed by the fact that they could have had the same performance a year and half earlier.
Those UE4 videos are beyond impressive. I wonder when we can expect the first games that really use that stuff though?
What do you mean?
Don't quite understand what you're trying to say. If they wanted it a year and a half earlier they would've bought a 780 Ti for $699.
Let's imagine that yesterday's release was a pure mid-end release. And that I'm a price conscious buyer who like to get good performance but not for top dollar. I have a GTX670. Let's imagine that $350 is about the most I'm willing to spend. I'd think $330 for 95% performance of last years top dog would be a great deal.Of course they didn't want it then because they thought that the next generation would give them a better increase on their card's performance. 100$ vs. a year and half of flagship performance doesn't sound that favorable to the latter. If they didn't find it worthwhile to upgrade to a gtx780, why would they do so to a gtx980?
People don't think GTX980 is an amazing deal. It's the 970 they (and I) are crazy about.
Let's imagine that yesterday's release was a pure mid-end release. And that I'm a price conscious buyer who like to get good performance but not for top dollar. I have a GTX670. Let's imagine that $350 is about the most I'm willing to spend. I'd think $330 for 95% performance of last years top dog would be a great deal.
People don't think GTX980 is an amazing deal. It's the 970 they (and I) are crazy about.
Let's imagine that yesterday's release was a pure mid-end release. And that I'm a price conscious buyer who like to get good performance but not for top dollar. I have a GTX670. Let's imagine that $350 is about the most I'm willing to spend. I'd think $330 for 95% performance of last years top dog would be a great deal.
I'm very skeptical about this MFAA thing: anything that does temporal filtering is highly suspect. It's probably fine for static images but I don't see how it can work anything that moves.And that 95% level of performance is achieved using MSAA. With 2nd Gen Maxwell, one can soon make use of MFAA which is ~ 30% faster in comparison to MSAA with allegedly comparable image quality.
And once there is an even faster model, they can add another $150-$200 to end up with $750, just like before. The 980 is not attractive to those who already had the best (780Ti). But if many people are willing to pay $1000 for a Titan/$750 for a 780Ti, then there must be many as well who want to pay $750 for something that's, say, 30% faster than a 780Ti. If they'd priced the 980 at $450, it'd be harder to ask $750...Nvidia has the best card on the market, so they're making you pay top dollar for it.
Of course they didn't want it then because they thought that the next generation would give them a better increase on their card's performance. 100$ vs. a year and half of flagship performance doesn't sound that favorable to the latter.
If they didn't find it worthwhile to upgrade to a gtx780, why would they do so to a gtx980?
If it is not the flagship then it shouldn't have such a high price. For the slight performance it gives over the 970, it should cost less.
Well, if I could find one with three DP on it :>
[Oh, and I'll take that sweet reference cooler as well? Pretty please? It's my birthday? :sigh: ]
It seems like it would be difficult to make this work in the drivers, but temporal AA was mentioned multiple times at Siggraph this year. Epic did a presentation on it and they use it in the Infiltrator demo.I'm very skeptical about this MFAA thing: anything that does temporal filtering is highly suspect. It's probably fine for static images but I don't see how it can work anything that moves.
I have a gtx780 now and hope to return to the past with the full line-up from the start, I do not understand (from user point of view) this trend "a hiccup" and I hope that the nvidia ends with this approach of using midrange chip for vga "top"
I have a gtx780 now and hope to return to the past with the full line-up from the start, I do not understand (from user point of view) this trend "a hiccup" and I hope that the nvidia ends with this approach of using midrange chip for vga "top"
The Gigabyte Gaming card has 3 DP. No sweet reference cooler though .
What's so hard to understand? In the past they could rely on more advanced chip manufacturing to increase performance. Given what nVidia has accomplished on 28nm you should be thrilled. We should hope that AMD follows suit.
When is the last time we got that kind of perf/watt or perf/mm increase from architecture alone?
The 970/980 SKUs are replacements for GTX680/670 at best. For a GTX780 replacement you'd have to wait for the high end GK110 successor codenamed GM200 probably due to arrive some time next year.
GM204 is a performance and not a midrange chip.
*also from the point of view of the "non entusiasth" I do not think that is a correct policy, paying $ 500 a gpu that otherwise you would find in the range of $ 300 and $ 300 a gpu that you would find in the range of $ 200.