NVIDIA Fermi: Architecture discussion

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Rys, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. Ailuros

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    20 more days, one more card? At that pace, they'll be ready for launch in no time.
    You can tell? If so, that's amazing news as far as Fermi power consumption goes...

    [strike]There's something strange going on with that DVI connector, though. Somehow, it doesn't seem properly aligned and the second card doesn't have one.[/strike]
     
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    Jebus not another silly multiple page piccy analysis.
     
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    Nice. He doesn't explain why we are more immune to the issues though... :cool:
     
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    ...and, why is that? ;)
     
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    I suppose TSMC will be able to give zero defects when Nvidia's design and drivers can do the same.

    Is it really realistic to make a chip design that relies on every single gate of several billion transistors being perfect?
     
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    Hmmm, that's a big improvement over GT200 density if those numbers are accurate. Probably just due to the bigger caches though.
     
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    I doubt -- Cypress is still well ahead regarding the register file size compared to Fermi, and that counts too as a dense structure category, along the SRAM arrays for the various caches and buffers.
     
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    True, and a 3.2 billion tranny Fermi at 400mm^2 would skip ahead of Cypress by a fair margin on the density front. But that 400mm^2 could easily be closer to 450mm^2 depending on how loose they were with the dimensions.
     
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    Even sooner, R9600 (RV350) was 130nm, while R9800 was 150nm.
     
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    = G80
     
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    G80 is 480mm^2. The paragraph starts with a reference to a 40nm 3.2b transistor chip. Actually re-reading it they could be referring back to G80 with that sentence.
     
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    Looks similar to my computer. Not surprising though,. Mine was setup specifically to support 3 Way Fermi. No there aren't Fermi's in these pictures. :p

    Code:
    Intel I7 860
    Asus P7P55 WS Supercomputer
    3 Way SLI capable + small PhysX PPU
    8 Gigs DDR 3 1333 ((unimpressive memory types :P))
    Silverstone 1.5 Kilowatt PSU
    Windows 7 64 Bit Ultimate
    
    [IMG]http://chrisray.soterial.com/chrisraymisc/maingear1.jpg[/IMG]
    
    [IMG]http://chrisray.soterial.com/chrisraymisc/maingear2.jpg[/IMG]
    
    [IMG]http://chrisray.soterial.com/chrisraymisc/maingear3.jpg[/IMG]
     
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    Niiiice! So there's an upside to the grief that you have to suffer eh? :D

    I installed an H50 and Q9550 a few weeks ago to upgrade my aging P35 setup. Wish I knew that P35 sucked at overclocking quads before that little experiment. Glad to see the H50 going mainstream though - it really is a nice bit of kit.

    What do you mean it was setup specifically to support 3-way Fermi? What's different between that and say a 3-way GTX285 setup?
     
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    Maybe you(or someone else from you guys) should though, before the internetz explodes with the news of Evergreen having ever-failing vias.
     
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