NPD March 2008
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He's at least 2 million low on the 360 according to MS numbers. US is still just under 10m tho.
Here's the NPD numbers for the US LTD.
360 9897600
PS3 4051400
Wii 8797000
GT5P is only available in US yesterday >_<
But the die hard folks probably already imported it from Europe and Japan.
This "everybody wins" talk we keep hearing is for losers.
Seriously though, I'm sure you can find a lot of "win points" for last gen consoles too.
Gamecube made money, and Xbox setup the market for 360.
Personally I like following this console war as I'd follow NFL or FIFA cup, that is there can only be one winner.
We can always make up sub leagues like HD console wars, online console wars, living room console wars, dollar based console wars, etc.. But who cares besides the stock holders?
Nintendo is winning crushingly with last gen tech, they don't even seem to need third party support almost like an ironic response to most commonly voiced reason behind "Gamecube's failure".
Even Brawl will almost surely sell more than CoD4 or Halo 3 worldwide.
So yes, there is totally uninteresting Nintendo factor, but the battle for silver medal is still worth watching.
Please stop declaring everyone victors. :|
And who knows, even gold winner is not set in stone. .
Because it's true?
The industry is showing staggering growth, that leaves room for plenty of winners..all 3 competitors are stronger than the weakest link of GC last gen.
In general I agree. In addition, both PS3 and 360 has untapped potential because of incomplete software and problematic hardware respectively. They need to buckle up.
tongue_of_colicab
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Not true. Brawl and mariokart have pretty decent online. Its a bit (very) low on the communication side but other than that it works fine.
I've had a Wii since launch and I didnt get bored with it for a moment and I almost never have friends over to play on it. It also depends on how much you want to play. If you need a new game each week sure you are going to have a problem but if you need like one a month there is enough to keep you busy.
Than again, if you buy a ps3, how much more AAA do you have than on wii? not alot I think if any at all.
The only console that gots plenty of everything if you game very often is the 360 but only if you like the more western games.
I don't think that these numbesr are that broken
In north america the 360 should be around 11 millions (gross estimation 10 millions in us +10% fromCanada)
We have 2 millions in UK, three other millions around the world sounds ok to me.
On the other side the ps3 number.
the ps3 should be around 4 millions in US (3.5 +10%)
Is around 2 millions in japan.
So it needs 4 other millions from EU mainly;
Doesn't sound to biased to me if Sony is really about to catch up in Europe soon else...
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I didn't know that. That explain also the software sales the ps3 is still in the BRD effect.
Next month are likely to be better in this regard but Sony won't convince editors to sustain theirs efforts based on the sales of its own exclusives.
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Winners by what criteria? note to self: that doesn't even make sense
Success of some sort? Money?
They may all be successful by some criteria, but there is going to be only one winner.
And look at how you describe GC as weakest link, despite making more money than Xbox.
Add to the fact that if growth is a criteria, Xbox was "most winner" of all.
So everyone was winner last gen?
I'm clearly playing with words, since that's what is done in "everyone's a winner" posts.
Forgive my honesty but this tune doesn't sound much different from "my favorite console is not winning, but it wants to capture living room anyway" threads.
its not a race, there's no trophy for first place.
That Wii number is jaw-dropping when put into context. Those 721k units sold represent the highest non-holiday sales month ever, beating the previous mark set by the PS2 in June 2002. In case you don't remember, that was the month they dropped the price of the PS2 from $299 to $199. If the Wii ever gets a significant price cut AND has enough supply to meet the resulting demand...
Yes impressive, and in regard to recent discussion about controller, it's clearer and cleaerr that the nun-chuck is here to stay, it's a plebiscite from costumers.
It's like the pad I feel like competitors will have to adopt it sooner or later.
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Heh, I am surprised this is being posted - not just by you, Patsu, but in general - as if this is something surprisingly new. This has been happening every month since the Wii launched. As I've posted in the last few NPD threads, next gen has been won by Nintendo. Sony and MS are duking it out for second place, but it's moot (as a wise man once said!).
Here is a nice chart from a user at Neogaf.
How about that chart without made up numbers? Ie, NPD, Japan and GFK data, rather than certain websites proven to be flawed dozens of times over?
All I meant was that no one seems to be falling flat with the buying public. Sony is behind, but they made a trade by utilizing BR and a more radical processor design. No one is going to lose 4B$ like MS last round. The Wii is not just living off of old Nintendo franchises and falling relatively flat as the GameCube did.
You want a winner? Wii for total unit sales. MS will probably push them for gross sales $, if not surpass them with that attach rate. Who knows about net $. Sony gets its BR (so how does that figure in for $ value?)and a scaleable processor design for the next gen.
Net $? Gross $? Units Sold? Replayability?(I add that because many seem to get the Wii on fanfare and price, then it just sits - personal experience and forum impressions only. Average Game Quality by MetaCritic Score? Number of Million Unit Sellers?
Hell, what criteria do you want. MS lost money by the truckloads last round, I would have to consider the Xbox to be a market failure as a game machine. Nintendo didn't lose money last round, but the GameCube didn't set the world on fire either. Loser in my book. I just don't see a really clear cut winner coming out of this in the traditional PS2 style. Hell, not even in the PS1 fashion while the N64, Saturn and Dreamcast were falling flat.
You want a winner? Wii for total unit sales. MS will probably push them for gross sales $, if not surpass them with that attach rate. Who knows about net $. Sony gets its BR (so how does that figure in for $ value?)and a scaleable processor design for the next gen.
Net $? Gross $? Units Sold? Replayability?(I add that because many seem to get the Wii on fanfare and price, then it just sits - personal experience and forum impressions only. Average Game Quality by MetaCritic Score? Number of Million Unit Sellers?
Hell, what criteria do you want. MS lost money by the truckloads last round, I would have to consider the Xbox to be a market failure as a game machine. Nintendo didn't lose money last round, but the GameCube didn't set the world on fire either. Loser in my book. I just don't see a really clear cut winner coming out of this in the traditional PS2 style. Hell, not even in the PS1 fashion while the N64, Saturn and Dreamcast were falling flat.
Johnny Awesome
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Not shocking when you look at the broad game library.
Johnny Awesome
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I'm not convinced that all gamers will end up with a Wii. The appeal to the Wii for me and most of my friends is pretty limited. Most of the people I know with Wii play GHIII on it more than anything else, ironically enough.
One of the three will definitely turn more profits than the others, but all three consoles will sell in considerable quantities, and 3rd place will still be doing very good business if the numbers we're seeing keep up.
Let's throw this in there too:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/867/867617p1.html?RSSwhen2008-04-17_191200&RSSid=867617
That is pretty damn impressive. Thats a lot of downloads by a lot of people, in a short amount of time. Yesterday was the first day the pack was available for the PS3 to download right?
Can you purchase content with the Silver access?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/867/867617p1.html?RSSwhen2008-04-17_191200&RSSid=867617
That is pretty damn impressive. Thats a lot of downloads by a lot of people, in a short amount of time. Yesterday was the first day the pack was available for the PS3 to download right?
Can you purchase content with the Silver access?
One in eight?
Yup, but it seems dubious for a person with a silver account to buy multiplayer maps.
