News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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Rikimaru said:
GDDR5 in PS4 was clamshell. Now it's not. If MS were to use 8Gbit chips they cut bandwidth in half.
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As I explained in the other thread, samsung makes x32 width chips @ 8Gbit density. They just need to bin for speed.
 
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RDGoodla said:
It is very interesting that the "Gflops/watt" of PS4 GPU is relatively high in 28nm GPUs. In CUH-1200 PS4 system power is about 125W, so the GPU power is around 80W. It means that "Gflops/watt" is more than 20, which can beat most GPUs of R9-300 series. In other words PS4 is very power-efficient. How does SONY or AMD achieve that?
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Wasn't that 125W value when playing Dragon Quest Heroes? I am not familiar with the game, but it doesn't look like it is taking the best advantage of PS4 resources. Presumably some other games will generate a higher CPU and GPU load.
 
AlNets said:
As I explained in the other thread, samsung makes x32 width chips @ 8Gbit density. They just need to bin for speed.
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If it's a niche product, I wonder if there would be a problem selling the lower bins elsewhere, so that there's enough volume of 2133 for MS.
 
Not sure if this is the right topic, or if there is a better one (couldn't find it?) - but here it goes:

Just purchased a new PS4 at a bargain price for my sister (yes, she likes gaming!). This has the added advantage for me that it spares me transporting my PS4 from my place to hers when I want to continue a game at her place. Now that she will have her own PS4, the target is to have her console with two user-profiles. Her own, and mine. It's logical to assume we will each have a PS+ subscription (although she doesn't play online) - on mine, running on my PSN profile, on hers, on her profile.

The big question now is in regards to games. I only have digital content, which I purchased over my profile. Since I'll be playing a lot of these games on her console too; Can I redownload them on her console through my profile and play them on her console? On the PS3, I think digital games used to work on up to 5 different PS3s - I believe this was reduced to 3? Is this still accurate? What is the limit? Or do I need to re-purchase all those games using her PSN profile if I wish to play them on her console?

As far as I am aware, the PS4, upon adding an already existing PSN profile will ask if this is the "primary PS4". I assume I will just have to say "no" when I add my PSN profile on her console. Will this block me from downloading the content? Or is this merely to start a counter, keeping note that the games I do redownload are now running on a second PS4?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Phil said:
On the PS3, I think digital games used to work on up to 5 different PS3s - I believe this was reduced to 3?
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It was reduced to 2.

Is this still accurate? What is the limit? Or do I need to re-purchase all those games using her PSN profile if I wish to play them on her console?
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PS4 has a primary console for an account and secondaries. Everyone has access to your content on the primary console without having to log in as you - think family console sharing content for whoever plays on it. Secondary machines can play your content when you log in on PSN, the limit being only one secondary can be logged in as you at a time. You can stick your content on your sister's PS4 and play it when you log in.
 
Thanks Shifty!

In the meantime; I just found this:

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Just found this:


http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/26/5030872/sony-clarifies-ps4-game-sharing-rules-ahead-of-launch

The first PS4 you register will be your "primary console," and that's where digital purchases will automatically sync to. Anyone logged in on your primary system will then be able to play that game.

If you download the game on a secondary console, only you will be able to play that game. There's no limit to the number of consoles you can download a game on, but only two games can be played concurrently — one on your primary system, one on a secondary console, which you must be logged into. Sony has also revealed you'll be able to change which PS4 is your primary system if you need to. It's a slightly complex system, but it's not too different to how digital purchases work on PlayStation 3, and offers a little flexibility for gamers that usually download rather than buy physical discs.
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So in other words, if I do it "the correct way" - my ps4 being the primary console for my account, my sis's ps4 being the primary console for her login - I will only be able to play games (that I bought over my account) on her console when logged in to MY account. If she wishes to play those same games on her account, she needs to purchase a copy on her account?

Seems legitimate IMO and an intelligent way of avoiding one digital copy being used multiple times. I did prefer the PS3s way of things, but I can see why they would want to avoid that. Although I have to say, this new way isn't a genuine replacement for "buying physical copy and lending it to someone for a few days/weeks". But it's as good as possible in regards to digital content I guess...

Is this correct?
 
The internet is full of advice of setting the 'other' console as your primary and your home console as secondary. Then she can play the games without logging in as you, and you'll always be logged in as you to play them on your machine.
 
Thanks again! I just did some more searching. Seems the above is a perfectly good solution. However, there seems to be one disadvantage that should be kept in mind:

On the PS4 set as "secondary", you have to be connected to PSN in order to access your content. If your internet connection goes offline, or PSN does, I believe you will be thrown out of the game (?) and will not be able to access your content until you regain access.

Are there any other disadvantages? What about PS+? Does PS+ work on a secondary PS4? (I guess it does, since I couldn't find anything on this particular topic)
 
Phil said:
Thanks again! I just did some more searching. Seems the above is a perfectly good solution. However, there seems to be one disadvantage that should be kept in mind:

On the PS4 set as "secondary", you have to be connected to PSN in order to access your content. If your internet connection goes offline, or PSN does, I believe you will be thrown out of the game (?) and will not be able to access your content until you regain access.

Are there any other disadvantages? What about PS+? Does PS+ work on a secondary PS4? (I guess it does, since I couldn't find anything on this particular topic)
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Yes, your ps+ stuff works on any system you are logged in with.
 
Phil said:
Thanks again! I just did some more searching. Seems the above is a perfectly good solution. However, there seems to be one disadvantage that should be kept in mind:

On the PS4 set as "secondary", you have to be connected to PSN in order to access your content. If your internet connection goes offline, or PSN does, I believe you will be thrown out of the game (?) and will not be able to access your content until you regain access.

Are there any other disadvantages? What about PS+? Does PS+ work on a secondary PS4? (I guess it does, since I couldn't find anything on this particular topic)
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Hope I'm not breaking any rules, if so please delete and accept my apologies if I am.

My daughter purchased a PS4 and I have been using the following method so we all have access to all games and services with no need to be online;
1) I set my daughters PS4 as the primary one, I log out and tell her never to log in as me
2) I log online to the Sony store and via PC 'deactivate' her PS4
3) I log onto my PS4 and set it to primary

There are a couple things you need to be aware of;
1) You can only do this once every 6 months
2) If the 'secondary' PS4 user logs in as you the PS4 will be deactivated
3) Any new purchases that need loading onto the secondary PS4 will need you to log into it so having to repeat the above process
 
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