shredenvain
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True. Didnt think about that. I guess they would still have to have the thermal headroom on the older versions of the console to do upclocks.
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PRish statement coming when (~) the competition aligns its price on your system?
I think there is nothing to see here as far as hardware is concerned.
I don't expect it to be (completely) false either, beefy improvement coming to the system thanks to optimized library makes a lot of sense.
May be they hope MSFT will be slower to improve on that front as it seems that MSFT has bound the XB1 to directx advancements, whatever works on the xb1 has to work on future directx 12 systems, that could have an overhead as far as testing, limiting how close one can get to the metal, etc.
I think there is nothing to see here as far as hardware is concerned.
I don't expect it to be (completely) false either, beefy improvement coming to the system thanks to optimized library makes a lot of sense.
May be they hope MSFT will be slower to improve on that front as it seems that MSFT has bound the XB1 to directx advancements, whatever works on the xb1 has to work on future directx 12 systems, that could have an overhead as far as testing, limiting how close one can get to the metal, etc.
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Devs may be willing to offer an inferior experience. Everyone is used to it now because of mobiles. Everyone knows some games run like stink until you upgrade to a new handset. So a PS4+ that runs faster and offers better framerates would be acceptable in the consumer opinion, I think, and devs would just target the higher machine (which'll be all of 20% faster?) and those that play it with crappier visuals just have a mildly crappier experience. BL2 is always pretty dreadful on PS3. I can imagine PS4+ games running smoothly and PS4- running those games like BL2 on PS3, which is still 'doable'.
Not that I think it'll go that way, but the QA issue probably isn't so important now.
hesido
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I hope the industry doesn't go that way (PS4+, PS4++). One good thing about subscribing to a console gaming experience is to ensure your investment will perform similarly on future games even in the presence of console revisions, knowing fully that the devs are targeting your specs. If they go the PS4+ way, I'll go the PC way.
There's a thread on the notion of an upgradeable console where these concerns are discussed.
Anytime you talk about upgradeable consoles I just want to punch you in the face
I get that a lot. 
Huh? Why?
Thats not true with DX11 so why must it be true for DX12? Why can't there be a DX12.x?
A GPU upclock might be feasible, I think.
A CPU upclock... highly unlikely. I don't know, but I read here that increasing the CPU's clock to 1.750Mhz is the maximum the Jaguar permits, as it wouldn't make sense to upclock it higher in order to increase the performance 'cos of diminishing returns.
As for the GPU, small increments might not have much of an impact.
Inuhanyou
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the XBone CPU was upclocked a while before it was released though. And before it went into mass production.
In terms of 'upgrades', the only thing we should really expect going forward in regards to that in PS4 terms is an increase in memory relegated to game developers that's currently locked off to the OS.
Personally, we should see great looking games from PS4 and Xbox one this gen regardless of the specs....i actually prefer how limited they are myself. It may be a rare mindset to have, but i love to see what developers can do creatively with very limited hardware. that's much more impressive to me than having powerful or hardware increases without limit
In terms of 'upgrades', the only thing we should really expect going forward in regards to that in PS4 terms is an increase in memory relegated to game developers that's currently locked off to the OS.
Personally, we should see great looking games from PS4 and Xbox one this gen regardless of the specs....i actually prefer how limited they are myself. It may be a rare mindset to have, but i love to see what developers can do creatively with very limited hardware. that's much more impressive to me than having powerful or hardware increases without limit
Both were.
The Jaguar core has been clocked as high as 2 GHz in released products.
The Jaguar core has been clocked as high as 2 GHz in released products.
Best imo to look at it in terms of past consoles. Instead of thinking "Wow, this brand new console has a GPU I would consider kind of crappy in my PC", I prefer to think "Compared to my last gen console, this thing is in a different league in every way". Which they are. Instead of 8 year old tech it is now up to date, modern tech.
Not too much room there then.
Yup, GPU was 800, upclocked to 853. CPU was 1.6, upclocked to 1.75.
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I can see Wtach_Dogs available on the European PSN store - so us Europeans can finally pre-order and pre-load games, something that I believe was only available on the US store until recently.
Huzzah!
Huzzah!
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The same customer support that confirmed Watch_Dogs on PS4 was 1080p at 60fps?
EDIT: I can see Sony's webpage states the same thing. Mind you the same website also proudly proclaimed Watch_Dogs on PS4 was 1080p at 60fps.
I don't know what to believe any more. What's real? What isn't? Are you real?
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