News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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Whilst OCing sounds quick and easy, my PS4 is already loud enough thanks.

Personally I wish there was some way to know what 'normal' fan noise is because at times I can hear mine even with headphones on...so adding to that would not be nice, especially as we're now entering thye summer in the UK!
 
McHuj said:
You're the one who suggested that they could replace consoles that won't work with the update? Why would they replace working consoles?

There's a difference between an unknown potential to break a consoles with an update and one that that's guaranteed to break X percentage of consoles (assuming they're not all guaranteed to work at a potential up clock).
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I suggested that replacing consoles may be a viable remedy to the risk.

How is it guaranteed that it'll break?

Is your console guaranteed to work? If so, how? And what is the remedy if it doesn't?
 
Are we back to releasing The Kraken like in the PS3 days? We need a new name for the hidden potential to be unleashed.

On a more serious note I noticed that after 1.7 Netflix now seems to properly resume its session when switching back and forth between a game ("suspending" the game) and the Netflix app. If memory serves me, the last time I tested Netflix, Hulu and Crunchyroll only Crunchyroll would allow switching back and forth and allow you to resume the video exactly where you left off. Hulu and Netflix would both reload the app and therefore your entire session was lost.
 
I can't remember either way, but Neflix saves your location in the cloud always on any device, so I've never had that problem?

I do have a small issue on the iPad where my wife's account seems to be linked to mine, even though we use three different profiles linked to my Netflix acount on everything (and it's ok everywhere else). Perhaps I should just delete and reinstall it.
 
Arwin said:
I can't remember either way, but Neflix saves your location in the cloud always on any device, so I've never had that problem?
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So does Hulu, but its still restarts the entire app (on the PS4) if you switch back to it from an active game. You then have to navigate through the menus back to the video you were watching and then resume the video.
 
Gradthrawn said:
So does Hulu, but its still restarts the entire app (on the PS4) if you switch back to it from an active game. You then have to navigate through the menus back to the video you were watching and then resume the video.
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Hasn't bothered me much so far. I just wish they fixed the HDMI-CEC - I can't control it with my TV's remote control, which works fine on PS3.
 
Arwin said:
Hasn't bothered me much so far. I just wish they fixed the HDMI-CEC - I can't control it with my TV's remote control, which works fine on PS3.
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I've been controlling my PS4 with my TV remote since day. You sure it's the PS4?
 
PSP was downclocked at launch to save battery, the chip was more than capable of operating higher and it's fair to assume it was tested to do so.

The PS4 is at the edge of yield. If the production testing rig was validating them at a higher clock, why wouldn't they be at that clock right now?
 
Wynix said:
PSP.
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PSP was specced to 300 MHz and trottled to 200 MHz. AFAIK there has never been an upclock post launch in the history of gaming. That said, the SoC in PS4 is basically specced to be clocked to 2 GHz or going by the architecture and what's available on PC, depending on how the customisations fit in. It's probably the first chance for this to ever happen given an effectively PC component (although it's still not gonna happen!).
 
Any performance gains that ICE makes (which is the crux of this rumor) will be software driven, not hardware driven. Sony hardware engineers or Sony in general, aren't mentioned as the source... other than ICE Team improving certain tiling and memory methods within the SDK environment.
 
MrFox said:
PSP was downclocked at launch to save battery, the chip was more than capable of operating higher and it's fair to assume it was tested to do so.

The PS4 is at the edge of yield. If the production testing rig was validating them at a higher clock, why wouldn't they be at that clock right now?
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Well, I dunno about that, if the xb1 CPU can clock higher with the implications that a bigger chip gives then it's very likely that the ps4 CPU can as well. We have no idea what tests the cpu passed, yes it's likely that they went after higher yields than max frequency, but we don't know. Imho it's likely that the cpu is limited by cooling, power usage and live expectancy of the console.

Sony would could just do a small up clock to rub it in but in reality they don't need to, they are comfortable ahead and can just watch while Microsoft is fighting to get a foothold again.
 
Sony doesn't need to upclock anything to rub things in; they're already inherently faster by way of their superior hardware design/specs.

Unless people have completely missed it, but sony as a corporate entity is positively hemorrhaging money right now, they can ill afford ANYTHING that would risk increased warranty returns etc of an expensive piece of kit like PS4 (or missed sales because of bad rep for poor reliablity), and for what? A measily few percentage points of increased performance to satisfy a tiny internet fanboi crowd? No wai, never gonna happen.

The PS4s are flying off the shelves just the way they are right now. No need to mess with anything; come back in five years' time and we'll see... ;)
 
The first thing Sony will do is API/Driver optimization and RAM increase after devkits get more than 8gb of ram.

As for upclocks, that will happen some 4-5 years down the line.
 
There are a number of ways to make the hardware physically incapable of altering its clock multipliers, hence why there are unlocked and locked processor SKUs.

If the there aren't blown fuses or the like, then there's still the question of how comfortable Sony would be with implementing a mass-broadcast software package that has sufficient access to tweak the low-level behavior of the CPU.
 
DieH@rd said:
The first thing Sony will do is API/Driver optimization and RAM increase after devkits get more than 8gb of ram.

As for upclocks, that will happen some 4-5 years down the line.
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I agree totally. We may see both systems Socs get upclocked on both the cpu and gpu side once they have shrunk down the chips. As far as the Ps4 getting a performance increase rumor. From all I have seen it started from twitter and it wasnt from any Sony officials.
I think it is highly possible for the systems Api/Sdk to receive improvements that result in better performance. I would just like to hear it from Sony.
 
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