News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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Scott_Arm said:
What does X1 have to do with this? I had about 10 minutes to get in and out of the store and was only able to look at FIFA. Just seems kind of dumb, is all.
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The demo-station is a far cry from the real experience. It took a good 5-10 seconds to quit to the "desktop".

In the real UI, it's almost instant. And of course there are more features.
 
patsu said:
The demo-station is a far cry from the real experience. It took a good 5-10 seconds to quit to the "desktop".

In the real UI, it's almost instant. And of course there are more features.
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Yeah, I could tell the UI was totally different. I wanted to try Octodad, damnit.
 
patsu said:
The demo-station is a far cry from the real experience. It took a good 5-10 seconds to quit to the "desktop".
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The demo station is kind of bizarre. Not sure I see the point of showing potential customers a sluggish version of the OS primarily filled with videos . . . I expect that many folks will not even realize the thing has games installed on it.

Cheers
 
Difficult to say. Many sites churn out custom HTML pages based on user agent strings. Probably need to run a good sized sample to find out.
 
jayco said:
Is it? my laptop's 7670m runs hotter than that, around 62º running games C (143ºF) :runaway:
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My neurological attempt at a F > C conversion was off by a lot, but 40 Real Degrees Hotness surface temperature is still significant for a console, no?
 
Ok, so it's just the surface. I'm less worried about my laptop now. ;)
 
Shifty Geezer said:
My neurological attempt at a F > C conversion was off by a lot.
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If you want to know C from F you first have to subtract 32 and then divide with 1.8. For example

100F is = 100-32 = 68
/
1.8 = 37,7C.

It might be easier to divide the 68 by 2 and then add 10 % to get somewhat close. (11% for more presicion :))

To get F from C.

Multiply the C by 1.8 and add 32, but it might be easier to multiply by 2 and then subtract 10 % and then add 32. Both methods gives you an exact result.

20C X 1.8+32 =68F

or

20C X 2 = 40
(-10%) =36
+32 =68F

And for bonus, how to get pounds from Kg

Multiply Kg by 2 and add 10%, this gives you almost 100% exact result. Like 99.8% accurate.

50Kg X 2 = 100
+ 10% = 110lbs

Accurate would be 50 / 0,4535 = 110.25lbs.
 
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Absolute surface temperature and air outlet temperature don't mean much, it's missing the most important measurements like the die temperature, and internal temperature around the motherboard. But it shows that the areas sensitive to heat, like the HDD/ODD, are very much under control.

It's counter intuitive, but an efficient heat sink will invariably output hotter air than a less efficient design, as long as the target die temperature is the same. It will need less air flow to remove the same amount of heat. The hard part with a design like the PS4 is getting that hot air out on a path that doesn't heat up sensitive components (like the HDD) and to prevent conduction to slowly accumulate in other areas which don't have any air flow, but the test shows it looks fine even after 3 hours. ;)

The surface of the case is practically touching the heat sink, so it will show up on the FLIR. But there's cold air running between the case and the HDD/ODD, above and below. That's very clever, because it's a laminar flow of the coldest air on the most sensitive components, and even between the motherboard and it's shields. After that, the air goes through the major heat source, then it's isolated inside a shroud up to the exit. It can't heat up the other components by conduction, because there's a layer of cold air to separate them. The Power Supply at the end of the tunnel is by far the least heat-sensitive component so it can use the hotter air, but it still gets an air flow that is proportional to it's own output, since the fan is mostly controlled by the amount of power required.
 
Good analysis, that sounds like a well thought out design. Is Slim laid out in the same way?

@Dr Evil
A useful tip, thanks for posting it :)
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Anyone with a shiny new toy should have better things to do than post here.

Damn, that's hot!
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Hot? Maybe you English get enough of the cold outside and like to compensate in your homes and think that 62C is too much?

My spotless laptop (and fan) easily reaches 99º if you play The Witcher 2, Skyrim or Dragon Age on it.

I purchased a couple of laptop coolers and the temperature can still go up to 89C. That's why I rather prefer simple games like Age of Empires 2 HD or most of my collection of GoG games on my laptop.

News:

PS4 creator wants you to play games with your eyes.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/11/eyetoy_creator_wants_you_to_play_ps4_games_with_your_eyes
 
My i5 (Samsung Optimus jobbie) idles at about 42C and hits ~60C running a moderately high load. If I run anything through the GT650M then the temp can easily >75C. It gets pretty uncomfortable on your lap at that point!
 
I think a lot of people will read that and not consider the Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion as they're all used to Celcius in the SoC monitoring space irrespective of the country of origin really. OMG 121 degrees??? er yeah, that's 49c.... deserts in Australia get hotter
 
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