Oke 200hp is a bit overexacurated but its still pathetic what americans get out of their engines.
The ford f150, I believe the best selling car in the states, has a 5,4l v8 producing a whopping 300hp. The 2005 mustang has v8 4,6 and 5,4l supercharged engine producing 300 and 500hp. The z06, a massive 7l engine generating 505hp.
The F40 has 480hp from a 2,9l v8 engine, and that was 20 years ago. The audi RS6 has a 4.2l v8 producing 450hp. The m5 has something like 500hp with a 5l v10 I believe.
So yes its obious that we europeans know how to build a good engine alot better than americans do.
Thats great and all, but its still isnt anything close to the suspension used on european sports cars. Clarkson did a test on one of his dvd's with a z06 and a lotus exige on the track. The z06 got his ass kicked by the exige, wich is nothing more than tupperware with a 170hp engine. Why? because the z06, just like any other american sucks at cornering wich is also due to the crap suspension.
Its true that american sports cars are cheap compared to european sports cars but you know exactly why that is once you put them round the track (or the corner at the end of your street). You want a car that goes fast in a straight line and is cheap, buy american. You want a proper, quality sports car, buy something eurpean. Name one american sportscar that is better than we have in europe. The only real proper sportscar america has is the Ford GT and that is only good because its designed by europeans.
Couldnt agree more. But does that really matter? no matter what kind of leafsprings a car might have for example, its a fact that it just isnt as good as ''normal'' suspension used on sportscars. And putting the cars round a track gives a good enough idea about what the car is capable of. Most people wouldnt understand the tech-talk anyway.
And than im not talking about styling yet because most american cars arnt exactly what I would call good looking. Or the interior wich is low quality and 9 out of 10 times parts just dont seem to fit at all.
He loved it on the track. But he said its a bad on the road as it is good on the circuit.
Did I not tell you that hp/liter isn't that important?
Sure if you're making 200hp out of a 6 liter, but really for v8s they aim for 1hp/ cubic inch.
We americans like something called TORQUE, something you dont get from a tiny engine making 100hp/liter without a turbo/supercharger.
Do you seriously think a truck would do good with 300HP and 200 pound feet of torque??
Trucks need torque, thats what the engine the f150 has.
Btw the
nissan titan makes 300hp from 5.6 engine, now either they dont know how to make good hp/liter, or maybe they realize (unlike you) that a truck needs low end torque more than big hp.
Seriously, I beg to stop posting anything about cars unless you learn to stop spreading lies and half truths
Of course the z06 is bad on the road, it's pretty much a racecar, and it does that well, some how with it's supposedly outdated "leaf springs" and pushrods.
Btw, heres a tidbit on the z06 you may not realize, although it has a 7000rpm redline (!!!!), GM has tested it over 8000 rpm
If you think the z06 is anything less then steller that check out how it compares to it's european rivels which cost much more.
Clearly it's not being held back by not producing stupids ammounts of hp/liter.
Btw heres a hint on hp/liter- ever notice that cars making 100 or more hp/liter (without forced induction of course) rev really high?
Now tell me, why is is better to make 500hp at say 9000rpm with say 220 pound feet of torque then to make 500hp at 6300rpm (z06) and 480 pound feet it torque?
If you could drive a car that had those two engines choices(everything else the same), I bet I know which one you'd choose.
the LsX series engines are bloody fantastic engines, I dare say you're mental if you dont agree.
Oh and btw the F40 has twin turbos and suffered from massive turbo lag
But if you really wanna make 480hp from a 2.4 then go ahead, take it, while you're waiting for your turbos to spool I'll pass you in my z06, since the power is instant and it pulls like a bat out of hell from even low rpm.
turbos+ small engines+ big power= turbo lag.
Small engines+ big power= no power untill your near redline
big engines+ big power= big power from low rpm.
General guidlines
And btw, I't is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt
(applies strongly to you and your biased view of american cars, especially the z06 and it's suspension which you clearly know nothing of, yet bash it every chance you get).
