New OXM Rumor: Nintendo Xbox 2
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Exactly, there's potential. There has been potential, is potential and will be potential. Still, they haven't been able to use that potential, or that potential hasn't been appelaing to customers.
(I am feeling dumb today, sorry I make no sense to myself either)
(I am feeling dumb today, sorry I make no sense to myself either)
Rabid, just think it like this: It ain't gonna happen.
Better now?
Better now?
A lot of things have been "It ain't gonna happen", still they have happened.
Sega going software only, MS entering the console business, Titanic sinking, WTC towers collapsing, l-b getting a nasty virus in his PC from watching downloaded pormpg's....
a lot of bad things happen, though we'd prefer to lull in the safe dream-world of eternal happiness.
It IS going to happen! If not It, then something else, but you can not say it's never gonna happen, 'cos it's more likely it is, than never.
(Edit: I have today one of those 'Deja Vu' days... I've had several of those today, and a constant feeling of something bad is going to happen...... scary... and I did not drink too much over weekend, if someone thinks so!)
Sega going software only, MS entering the console business, Titanic sinking, WTC towers collapsing, l-b getting a nasty virus in his PC from watching downloaded pormpg's....
a lot of bad things happen, though we'd prefer to lull in the safe dream-world of eternal happiness.
It IS going to happen! If not It, then something else, but you can not say it's never gonna happen, 'cos it's more likely it is, than never.
(Edit: I have today one of those 'Deja Vu' days... I've had several of those today, and a constant feeling of something bad is going to happen...... scary... and I did not drink too much over weekend, if someone thinks so!)
rabidrabbit said:
HEY!!! I NEVER GOT A VIRUS FOM DOWNLOADING PORN!!!! The only porn i have is recorded from VHS or DVD, straight onto my HDD!!!!
The MPEG2 problem is freaking WindowsXP issue, not mine!
rabidrabbit said:
*Cough* 40M Halo and 40M Mario, so 80M games = 40M for each, or 2x the income than if the machines were incompatible. This is assuming a number of things of course, but it's just an example anyway.
Quite the contrary, it would be a completely different ballgame, nothing we've really ever seen before (no, 3DO doesn't count). If two major console manufacturers would join forces that would create a new situation in the market with some very intriguing results I bet!
There would be alot of pluses
xobx 2 / gc 2 would have funding from both ms and nintendo.
Thus they can make a high end with a ton of features and charge more for it. Think psx
While at the same time having a simpler system with just the features they need for the games .
Not only that but the two companys can share losses on the systems .
So if xbox 2 was going to cost ms 500$ but they could only sell it for 300$
and the gc 2 was going to cost 250 or 300$ but they could only sell it at 200$ they could now together take the hit of 300 or 400$ per system if they wanted to
thus giving them more powerfull hardware or more feature rich platforms .
As for nintendo there are alot of people who would love mario kart or another nintendo brand game that don't own them because there aren't enough good games on the gamecube for them to go out and buy it .
so a joint effort with 40 million units sold can give ms and nintendo up to twice the profits . That is asuming some things .
Then again a joint effort can take market share away from sony .
exclusive ms / nintendo games would match up very nicely against sony exclusive games and for many may be enough to switch consoles or even own both of them
xobx 2 / gc 2 would have funding from both ms and nintendo.
Thus they can make a high end with a ton of features and charge more for it. Think psx
While at the same time having a simpler system with just the features they need for the games .
Not only that but the two companys can share losses on the systems .
So if xbox 2 was going to cost ms 500$ but they could only sell it for 300$
and the gc 2 was going to cost 250 or 300$ but they could only sell it at 200$ they could now together take the hit of 300 or 400$ per system if they wanted to
thus giving them more powerfull hardware or more feature rich platforms .
As for nintendo there are alot of people who would love mario kart or another nintendo brand game that don't own them because there aren't enough good games on the gamecube for them to go out and buy it .
so a joint effort with 40 million units sold can give ms and nintendo up to twice the profits . That is asuming some things .
Then again a joint effort can take market share away from sony .
exclusive ms / nintendo games would match up very nicely against sony exclusive games and for many may be enough to switch consoles or even own both of them
When did people say "it ain't gonna happen" regarding Sega? At the end their problems were quite visable. As were 3dfx's. As were many companies one might not have expected to see major shifts from.rabidrabbit said:
And that's exactly the point. There are not yet any MAJOR problems one can see either at Microsoft nor at Nintendo, so they are both far more apt to pursue their own plans than do anything as utterly weird (for competitors) as what's being proposed here. Microsoft still has plenty of money to drive things through their way, and Nintendo will still make a ton of sales based on their name and first-party games to try their own routes, and their current philosophies seem to be in wildly different directions right now, so...
You'll pardon those people who aren't jumping on a "looks somewhat good on paper" concept that defies all evidence to the contrary.
Oh, I'm sure I could find many many quotes from this very forum saying itcthellis42 said:
We can find quotes from people saying the moon landings were faked, too.
How about a majority of people from across an industry all looking at empirical evidence and drawing conclusions from that?
How about a majority of people from across an industry all looking at empirical evidence and drawing conclusions from that?
cthellis42 said:
Now that I think about it, did it actually happen? The US flag waving and flaping is...well, let´s just say that it raises a question or two.
Also, it´s been 35 years since man landed on the moon, I wonder why there has been such little advance in space travels (relatively speaking, of course)?
Almasy said:
It didn't flap, it wiggled at best, its on a thin rod, there's little gravity and little atmosphere, any energy put into it to knock it in the ground is going to make it reverberate for hours
I figure, if Apollo 13, a modern hollywood big budget film can't make a moon landing look authentic (they had a daydream sequence where Tom Hanks lands IIRC), I doubt people from the 60's could.As for advance in space travels, our ambitions have gone to crap, but technologically, we are leagues ahead any tech from the 60's.
GwymWeepa said:It didn't flap, it wiggled at best, its on a thin rod, there's little gravity and little atmosphere, any energy put into it to knock it in the ground is going to make it reverberate for hours
As for advance in space travels, our ambitions have gone to crap, but technologically, we are leagues ahead any tech from the 60's.
Wouldn´t the flag be frozen at those temperatures though? Would it be still be able to even wiggle under those conditions?
Oh, and about the space landing, I don´t think anyone actually knows how one would look like, aside from the astronouts themselves, so recreating a situation no one has ever actually seen leaves a number of liberties open.
Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn....
No. Space might be cold, but things actually cools down very slowly in space because there is no atmosphere to absorb the heat. In fact, cooling things can actually be a big problem in space; the only way to get rid of excess energy is to radiate it away.Almasy said:
(maybe you could also use a heat pump to transfer the heat into something and then dump that object?)
Thowllly said:
Interesting, so i guess the "instant freezing" in space seen in many movies is all Hollywood crap...
Almasy said:GwymWeepa said:It didn't flap, it wiggled at best, its on a thin rod, there's little gravity and little atmosphere, any energy put into it to knock it in the ground is going to make it reverberate for hours
As for advance in space travels, our ambitions have gone to crap, but technologically, we are leagues ahead any tech from the 60's.
Wouldn´t the flag be frozen at those temperatures though? Would it be still be able to even wiggle under those conditions?
Oh, and about the space landing, I don´t think anyone actually knows how one would look like, aside from the astronouts themselves, so recreating a situation no one has ever actually seen leaves a number of liberties open.
The flag wasn't in shadow, on the moon anything not in shadow is blistering hot.
As for your last comment, the astronauts filmed the landing, so anyone who's seen any video knows what it looks like. Certain things were shown on film that would have been pretty hard to recreate if a hollywood movie couldn't, namely the near perfectly circular kick up of dust as the astronauts ran around (with certain foot-steps you could see a circular cloud of dust come up from their foot, and due to the low gravity it spent much more time "airborne" than would otherwise be possible on earth's heavier gravity).
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