I don't quite understand ... with Skype you can call to (using SkypeOut, which my company uses) and be called from (using SkypeIn, which we don't use) regular phones ...
Then how do people call you back?
I don't quite understand ... with Skype you can call to (using SkypeOut, which my company uses) and be called from (using SkypeIn, which we don't use) regular phones ...
Oh, I know it works, but only if you and the people you phone have a Skype phone. There's no point me buying a Skype phone if no-one I'm going to call has one, and there's no point them buying one if no-one has one to call them on. So in such a catch 22, it's a dead-end here, short of a big agreement for someone to buy a job lot and distribute them.
What I mean is Microsoft's platforms and service have historically been MS exclusive. Choosing the MS format would always lock you into the MS OS. Like all those unique IE extensions that meant web pages designed to work on the 70+% of Windows users messed up on non-Windows machines. Similarly Silverlight only works on MS OSes (okay, OSX according to Wiki), whereas Flash runs on everything including Linux. MS wants people to use Silverlight as it's better than Flash, but it also has limited distribution too. If everything went the way MS wanted, everyone would ditch Flash, user Silverlight, and every web-browsing device would have to license MS's software while they could control which platforms (Linux) would be excluded from internet content. This is one way MS helps push their OS, so it's understandable. And other companies do similar, such as Sony developing proprietary storage formats. Only they've had to give up on that, and these days they same more interested in spearheading open standards. MS as a software giant are always challenging every software fashion that appears with their own version.
So what likelihood is there of PSN or NinendoNET getting Skype support? Will Linux and Android still get Skype content, or will MS push Windows in all its flavours as the ideal network and squeeze out these other platforms? I don't see the business sense in buying Skype if MS aren't going to leverage customers onto Windows, unless they intend to monetise it more aggressively.
They get 25 million online users (as i am writing this) in one go, and has access to a platform that is widespread, they can integrate it into Messenger, XBOX Live, Windows Live and Windows Phones.
Skype can live on and they can attach other services to it, there by adding strength to the "microsoft only" products. Google should have bought it and done the same.
Then how do people call you back?
If the telco's start losing revenues because their dataplans sees people using free Skype instead instead of their high-cost direct-phone tarrifs, surely they'll change their schemes so using Skype is no longer in the phone user's best interests?
This one is probably my biggest worry at the moment.
why ? Google and Apple have both been on buying sprees (sp?) hell andriod isn't even googles doing , they bought it.
Google was looking to buy skype and ms beat them to it , i think its a good thing , its not like apple or google are hurting for cash anymore they all have alot of money so it should work out fine in the end
Yes, that's the point I'm raising! To get the Skype benefit of free VOIP calls, you need Skype on both ends of the connections. Otherwise it's just a normal phone, and if everyone has a normal phone already, why buy a Skype phone? To get the free calls, of course. Which you won't get unless the person your calling also has a Skype phone. Why would they get a Skype phone when they already have a phone? To get the free calls of course! Except only calling someone with a Skype phone...You can phone anyone from Skype. And be phoned by anyone. There's no need for Skype phones all over the place. Having a Skype phone simply means you get the call for free.
Yes, that's the point I'm raising! To get the Skype benefit of free VOIP calls, you need Skype on both ends of the connections.
Who would that tariff go to? As an example, I got an offer from BT the other day offering all inclusive BB and phone. In the small print was a requirement for two non-free calls a month or else a charge of £1.50 is made. Calls falling outside the call plan (evening and weekend IIRC) are charged at something like 10p a minute + 10p minimum charge, and 50p a minute to London numbers. 50p!!! Clearly a Skype phone at both ends would be great, but if the connection breaks somewhere along the line and you end up making an ordinary landline call, even a short hop, I can see someone somewhere charging significant fees for this.Today, Skype bridge calls from Skype endpoints to regular phones. There is no reason why they couldn't bridge calls to other VOIP networks and thus end up with very low tariffs for calls.
Skype of course. They provide the service.Who would that tariff go to?
As an example, I got an offer from BT the other day offering all inclusive BB and phone. In the small print was a requirement for two non-free calls a month or else a charge of £1.50 is made. Calls falling outside the call plan (evening and weekend IIRC) are charged at something like 10p a minute + 10p minimum charge, and 50p a minute to London numbers. 50p!!! Clearly a Skype phone at both ends would be great, but if the connection breaks somewhere along the line and you end up making an ordinary landline call, even a short hop, I can see someone somewhere charging significant fees for this.
Yes, that's the point I'm raising! To get the Skype benefit of free VOIP calls, you need Skype on both ends of the connections. Otherwise it's just a normal phone, and if everyone has a normal phone already, why buy a Skype phone?
History is history. It is more important to look t what they are doing now. i.e. the stuff they are doing with IE9 and going down the standards and compliance approach is very different from previously. The Microsoft of now are also the Microsoft that has a very active participation on the iPod app store with numerous apps that will connect to office/skydrive.Given Microsofts history that Shifty so nicely pointed out Google would have been the best choice since Apple is actually way worse than Microsoft when it comes to being self centered
Obviously we don't want that! We want to be in control of communications! Nah, they can just call us on our regular phone lines, which we still also have. There are only advantages for us calling out to customers using Skype, or when both parties have Skype. But in our next office, we'll likely only have VOiP and mobile.
If that's true, Skype do a lousy job of marketing that (in the UK anyhow). I know Skype for party chat on PC and nothing else. I know it gives the option to call a landline, but I haven't been told its economical to do so. Also, with the Skype I've experienced, the landline call will be higher quality and I wouldn't pick Skype over that all else being equal. Also with BT's 'line rental' fees there's a huge uniform service tax on everyone still using a landline, so if anyone on cable could forgo a copper telephone line and use VOIP, that'd save a bundle.No, it is a much cheaper way to make international calls to standard (land line or cell) phones.
Who would that tariff go to? As an example, I got an offer from BT the other day offering all inclusive BB and phone. In the small print was a requirement for two non-free calls a month or else a charge of £1.50 is made. Calls falling outside the call plan (evening and weekend IIRC) are charged at something like 10p a minute + 10p minimum charge, and 50p a minute to London numbers. 50p!!! Clearly a Skype phone at both ends would be great, but if the connection breaks somewhere along the line and you end up making an ordinary landline call, even a short hop, I can see someone somewhere charging significant fees for this.
It is on the frontpage of their website.If that's true, Skype do a lousy job of marketing that (in the UK anyhow).
We know it for video chat for our families which are now distributed around the globe (the international call thing is really to phone up and say "Oi, go and turn the computer on"). From my perspective XBOX has been screaming for a Skype client, because it'll be great to just sit on the sofa and allow the people we're taliing to to get a wider view of us all; now the deal looks like we're going to get exactly that.I know Skype for party chat on PC and nothing else.
Call quality can be affected by you own LAN connections and traffic and also, more importantly, your internet bandwidth and what activity you have going on at that time. Outside of that, I'd wager that any international calling mechanism get levelled in terms of quality.Also, with the Skype I've experienced, the landline call will be higher quality and I wouldn't pick Skype over that all else being equal.
....because it'll be great to just sit on the sofa and allow the people we're taliing to to get a wider view of us all; now the deal looks like we're going to get exactly that.
Possibly. However, MS already have the ability to do that with Windows Live Messenger integration, yet a PC user cannot video-chat with an Xbox/Kinect user.