Michael Jackson in seclusion

Legion said:
K.I.L.E.R said:
I agree with Tahir. Let the courts decide if he's guilty. All evidence will be presented and a judgement will be made hopefully without media bias.

Now here is something for all your entertainment needs:
http://www.neilrogers.com/sounds/bonr1994/23.mp3

lets do the same with Israel then shall we?

Don't know what you mean there buddy.
If it's about Sharon's war crimes thing then I guess putting him on trial is more civilised and better at determining if he's a war criminal. If he's truly a war criminal the courts will find him guilty.

Can we get back on topic? Start another thread about Israel vs Pelestine if you want Legion.

Don't you just hate when a thread goes off topic?
 
Tahir said:
Look everyone he might have done it he might not. Doesn't he have a right to a fair trial or should we all execute him now?

Everyone is so quick to judge.

I agree with Tahir. There could be a whole number of things at hand here. The family may be trying to extort cash from the guy. The media may be blowing things out of proportion…etc. There should be solid evidence to back the claim up before we hang MJ "out to dry" so to speak. Innocent until proven guilty. But that does not explain why parents would allow for the excursion in the first place considering all the allegations over the last decade.
 
MuFu said:
He's on the run again.

michael_jackson_on_the_run1%5b1%5d.jpg


Hehe. :LOL:


-Neutrality-
 
Tahir said:
What has Israel got to do with MJ?
Are you going to derail this thread into another crusade?

Lol, I imagine these message boards as a place where people are having conversations. The oddity is that words are easily recalled though. Often enough particularly in a general discussion room someone overhears a conversation going on in the same room on a different subject but has underlying parallels and there is some interjection. At any rate I was just thinking the same thing and this is what I came up with. Not justifying the act, just finding a reason. Basically though I agree, "What has Israel got to do with MJ?" Not a dammed thing IMO. ;)
 
I too think that the parents engineered it to try and get money, what sane individual would send their kid to a pedophiles house to sleep over. If you do you get what you ask for...(of course it is still statutory maybe), seriously though something is wrong with the parents.
 
Sxotty said:
I too think that the parents engineered it to try and get money, what sane individual would send their kid to a pedophiles house to sleep over. If you do you get what you ask for...(of course it is still statutory maybe), seriously though something is wrong with the parents.

I am not sure of the parents motive, only suspicious.
 
Tahir said:
What has Israel got to do with MJ?
Are you going to derail this thread into another crusade?

Derail it? I started this thread.

quite a lot to do with this. You suggested we give MJ the freedom of not judging him until we have reviewed all the evidence however you will judge an entire population of jews guilty of ethnic cleansing without doing what you have suggested.

In otherwords i am saying you a being hypocritical.
 
ARGH!

WE ARE GOING OFF TOPIC!

If you plan on going off topic alltogether I'll make another MJ thread that will be on topic.
 
K.I.L.E.R said:
ARGH!

WE ARE GOING OFF TOPIC!

If you plan on going off topic alltogether I'll make another MJ thread that will be on topic.

really? I thought judging people fairly was to the point of this topic.
 
Legion said:
Tahir said:
What has Israel got to do with MJ?
Are you going to derail this thread into another crusade?

Derail it? I started this thread.

quite a lot to do with this. You suggested we give MJ the freedom of not judging him until we have reviewed all the evidence however you will judge an entire population of jews guilty of ethnic cleansing without doing what you have suggested.

In otherwords i am saying you a being hypocritical.

Come on man, I don't know but sometimes we might get a bit carried away. Bah, I am no better I have done the same.
 
Sabastian said:
Legion said:
Tahir said:
What has Israel got to do with MJ?
Are you going to derail this thread into another crusade?

Derail it? I started this thread.

quite a lot to do with this. You suggested we give MJ the freedom of not judging him until we have reviewed all the evidence however you will judge an entire population of jews guilty of ethnic cleansing without doing what you have suggested.

In otherwords i am saying you a being hypocritical.

Come on man, I don't know but sometimes we might get a bit carried away. Bah, I am no better I have done the same.

and if some one where to accuse your people or your family of the same how would you react?
 
Legion said:
and if some one where to accuse your people or your family of the same how would you react?

Probably in a similar manner. I won't be any more self righteous with regards. But mayhap you would consider a more appropriate thread regarding Israel / Palestinian conflict? I haven't got it in me for that sort of discussion presently.
 
my comment has nothing to do with inciting an israel/palestinian debate. I was just pointing to Tahir that he doesn't apply his so called code of ethics when it doesn't suit him.
 
Legion said:
my comment has nothing to do with inciting an israel/palestinian debate. I was just pointing to Tahir that he doesn't apply his so called code of ethics when it doesn't suit him.

Nuff said then?
 
Sabastian said:
Legion said:
my comment has nothing to do with inciting an israel/palestinian debate. I was just pointing to Tahir that he doesn't apply his so called code of ethics when it doesn't suit him.

Nuff said then?

yes, your fears were for not...no debate here you can take off your flak jackets and helments now.

jesus guys, you'd think i'd just called Jesus a fraud in a christian forum.
 
I was just pointing to Tahir that he doesn't apply his so called code of ethics when it doesn't suit him.

My so called what? And when it doesn't suit me like now and before? I see no discreprancy
Why don't you chill out, I'm just a guy not some sort of guru wannabe.

And what's Jesus and Christian forums got to do with it now?
Some people here defended me only because this attack on me has nothing to do with MJ and the mess he is in right now. Not because you are seen to have blasphemed.

The problem is netiquette and the lack of which you are showing now.

Now if you have a problem with what I have said in the past you can make a new thread calling me into question. You can call me a hypocrite again if you want. Do whatever you like but not here in this thread. That's all. There is a large body of evidence and comments I have made so you will have plenty of resources to read up on. You can take it via PM or out in public or you can forget it. It's up to you buddy.

I have already made and scrapped three replies I was about to make and then decided against it, but you are taking the biscuit now.

Oh and you made this thread but it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to all Beyond3D forum members and guests. Some manners is all that is being called for - no one is arguing whether you are right or wrong including me.
 
<takes off flak jacket>

Back onto MJ. He's already shown the world that he is a predator. There is a barrier of morality that everyone has preventing them from doing such acts. Once a person breaks through that barrier they have proven that their desires are stronger than their morals and that's not something that can change, once you give in once it just becomes easier and easier. It's like a girls first time- once the hymen is broken it's a lot easier. Now please understand that I am talking about being in predator mentality. It's possible for people to have a sxual relationship with a younger person and not be in predator mentality- seeing it as normal sex. That is something that people can later realize the damage they can do and repent. Not saying it's okay to do so, but that it's a very different situation. If a person crosses that line as a predator they shouldn't be allowed to be in a situation where they might be able to take advantage of a child for the rest of their lives because it will happen again. MJ has shown that he is a predator, and so it diesnt matter if he did it with this specific kid or not because he will and likely has done it many other times.

I'm really pissed at MJ because people see him and think that all transsexuals / homosexuals are like him, which is certainly not true.

edit:
(after seeing Tahir's post above me (that was made while i was writing this one)...)

<puts back on flak jacket and jumps in nearby foxhole>
 
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