And currently JVD Xbox outsells GC 2-1 with one hand tied behind it's back in the form of massively constrained supply.
in what crazy world is that ? Both systems are basicly dead sales wise . There are no xbox systems and there are no gamecube games. Neither are selling very well at all and the sales are very close to each other with the gamecube about 1 million units behind and making money ...
The market is different. Why did you think GCN wasn´t favoured by the market? Instead of being seen as a steal in terms of price:value ratio, it was even thought of as less powerfull and valuable than PS2. I believe that is because in the console market, price is one of the biggest indicators of value.
It was simple , the ps2 already had a large user base and dev support compared to the newely launched gcn . It wasn't price that screwed them . It was the lack of compelling games. Nintendo makes great games , but they can't make enough great games to compete against the huge amount of games sony had , esp with over a years lead on the market .
Traditionally, consoles stay at their introduction price point a couple of years, at least in the NA market, so I don´t believe a price cut would be favorable to public perception of the X360. The hardcore population will make known that they bought it at $300 just a couple months ago and that this the thing is decreasing in value, fast.
And the non hardcore will see it droped in price and see the line up of games and figure its either now affordable or it has a ways to go .
Sometimes price drops can be very very good .
The sale strategy is solid, but I question how widespread it can be and how much it can last. If you offer it in a limited fashion, your ability to maximize sales drops. If you limit the sale, stores that aren´t offering it will suffer that fact and the sales surge won´t seem as great. The same will happen if the sale isn´t on for a sufficient time period. It´s tricky too, if it extends for too long, it will just seem like the standard price and the impact is gone.
Many products are on special sales and then go into that being thier real price . They can have it apear at best buy or walmart at key moments before holiday 06' and then in early 07' they can officaly drop the price.
There are many ways to do it and even pack ins can be one of them with out the value being demished. Your also assuming it has to be a large price drop. It can be as simple as hitting 279$ or 269$
AFAIK, they´re very similar in size. I don´t remember the exact figure, but the difference was in the region of 10% of difference.
160m vs 230 ? 70m transistors is alot more than 10%
see your point, and sure, that should provide an advantage. Still, how expensive to manufacture will the eDRAM block be?
Well edram is denser but its on a seperate chip which should keep yields high enough and its a small block. I think its 120m ? mabye 150m ? You should be able to produce alot of them at 90nm on a 300mm wafer . Yields shouldn't be that bad as its only 500mhz . The yields on the two chips should be much greater than the yield of a single chip of that size or the rsx . Thus costing less .
I see. How many more busses are in PS3 than x360?
Not sure off the top of my head . I think 1 mabye 2 .
xbox 360
ram to gpu to cpu . sb to gpu
ps3 . ram to gpu to cpu to ram , i belive there is a south bridge in there too though i'm not sure .
Its also the size and the complexity of the busses that are a problem . Not just the amount of them .
It´s a fixed cost, though, the HDD I mean. Its cost shouldn´t be neglible as MS was very hesitant on including it for a reason. If it were very cheap Sony would have no trouble announcing one themselves, don´t you think?
Sony can have any number of reasons for not including it and one can certianly be the bluray drive .
The hdd wont be cheap your right. But it wont be insanely expensive Its a small drive 20 gbs . Basicly laptop sizes . Your right that it wont scale in price quickly but it will lower and add on drives can be a good way for them to recoup the costs . Many will be happy with 20 gbs but many will want more . It also makes thier dreams of smaller games and micro transactions a realitly
True, Blu Ray hasn´t been produced yet, AFAIK, but it will be, and in very big volumes, so I don´t see it being very costly. I doubt Sony would have included it if it had affected that much PS3´s budget.
it will be one day your right. But hten again so will every part of the ps3 one day .
They had to include bluray because with out hte ps3 the format will most likely have been dead in the water . Hd-dvd should be launching first , the drives and media should also cost less .
