Life, universe and 3D graphics (includes responses to Qs)

Markus Maki

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Sorry if I don't have time to check in every day, I'll try to do it once or twice a week. Being pretty busy, especially now that part of the team is at E3 this week, showing The Fall of Max Payne.

KillahSin asked about transition of level editors in FPS games and 3D games in general transitioning to more advanced features. For instance using Materials instead of static textures. Where you can layer specular diffuse bump displacment reflect refract gloss etc maps. As well as things like enabling radiosity ray tracing, Global illumination. Things to lower the gap between yesterdays CG movies and todays real time graphics. Does he think we will start to see shaders used to do video post type work like motion blur etc, or dof, compositing type effects and such.

Whoa, a long question, in the Reverend style :rolleyes:

Radiosity, Global Illumination we already see calculated to light maps. Real time -- we're still some way off from that. But there are some cool lighting techniques under investigation that work with shaders, real time. It's just that now they work in real time for
a) static geometry only
b) for small sets of geometry (one object = 30-60 fps)

Post processing effects like motion blur, dof etc. we're seeing already. Mostly on Playstation2, even Max Payne (PS2) used motion blur to cover the fact that the frame rate was always not optimal :) (I know that's bad) but lots of games use post-proc on PS2/XBOX. These are becoming viable when PS1.1 cards are common enough on the PC too (pretty much now). The only thing is that the additional buffers take a lot of memory, and stuff like depth of field or too much blur might not add any value to the game, just be annoying to the gamer. So it needs careful thought.

On the advanced materials, I think once we get rid of this DX6 style multitexture, we'll be there. I'd guess in about 2 years we'll be pretty much completely rid of those, and the dominant standard will be VS2.0/PS2.0. A lot of it is up to when we get PS2.0 to low-end and to the integrated graphics solutions, unfortunately.

Although raytracing hardware is being investigated, it's not yet practical and I don't think if anyone knows whether it will ever be. Search some Siggraph papers if you're interested.

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theHunted asked:
who actually decides wether modding tools are to be released or not? Is it the publisher (in your case take 2) who has the rights to decide it, or is this all up to the developer team (remedy in your case)?

Also, what are your thoughts on mp2 modding tools, wether they will be available or not? can you give any information? (yeah i know, its propably secret and you cant give out any informations, but hey, i thought it was worth a try asking
I can't say for every developer, but it's the developer and the publisher together who decide. Usually it's good to release the tools, I certainly haven't regretted for a second we did that for Max1.

Some developers may have such bad tools (as we had for our first game, Death Rally) that even we didn't want to touch them EVER again :)

And your second question is "intentionally left unanswered" :devilish:

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It may be better if I keep my fingers off the days' hot topic. Still, I'll leave you with a thought:

Would you rather have 100's of different, non-comparable benchmarks, or one forward looking "standard" to compare, although a standard too popular so that it's critical for manufacturers to perform best at it?
 
Reverend, just a suggestion, I'd actually like it more if people could respond to the threads I start... Could get a bit of a discussion going.

Not that I have time to moderate it but still, I would get an impression whether people think I'm full of b.s. or not 8)
 
Markus Maki said:
Reverend, just a suggestion, I'd actually like it more if people could respond to the threads I start... Could get a bit of a discussion going.

Not that I have time to moderate it but still, I would get an impression whether people think I'm full of b.s. or not 8)
I'd prefer if we keep things the way it is.

If you want to respond to questions raised by the forum folks in threads they start as a result of a posting by you on your own page or something they simply want to ask you, you can do so in those threads -- it is not necessary to respond to them here on your own page. Cool?
 
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