Leaked AMD Fusion Strategy Guide

[eastmen]

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/05/27/leaked_amd_fusion_strategy_guide

I haven't seen the z-series yet so thats good news

They also fiew the a6 series as overlaping with the core i5 and the a8 series against the core i7 and i5

Here they are showing the A series at 35-45w and 226sq mm replacing a 66 sq mm 13w north bridge , 200sw mm 45w quad core and a 108sq mm 26.3 gpu.

So if my math is right they are replacing 374mm2 and 84.3w with a 35-45w part and 226sq mm chip.

Seems pretty good to me

 

[hoho]

It's kind of funny how they compare a dualslot and seemingly rather high-end GPU with most likely close to 100GB/s memory bandwidth to a CPU that has several times less throughput for both graphics computing and raw memory bandwidth.

 

[Zaphod]

It's kind of funny how they compare a dualslot and seemingly rather high-end GPU with most likely close to 100GB/s memory bandwidth to a CPU that has several times less throughput for both graphics computing and raw memory bandwidth.

Waitwhat? The picture might be something else, but the die size and power comparison certainly indicates Redwood.

 

[hoho]

Ah, my bad. Never thought a relatively low-end GPU would need dualslot cooling. Redwood seems to have 64GB/s bandwidth by default vs dualchannel DDR3 providing around half that that has to be shared with CPU.

 

[smw]

Ah, my bad. Never thought a relatively low-end GPU would need dualslot cooling. Redwood seems to have 64GB/s bandwidth by default vs dualchannel DDR3 providing around half that that has to be shared with CPU.

Well at least according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Evergreen_series
the 64GB/s model is most definitely not 26.3 TDP and discrete desktop version of Redwood go way down to 12.8GB/s...

 

[trinibwoy]

When should we expect to see the first x86 tablets?

 

[eastmen]

When should we expect to see the first x86 tablets?

the acer iconia w500 is already out using the t-50 (1ghz dual core with a 6250)


I'm going to guess the Z series will hit in the second half of the year ?

 

[CarstenS]

When AMD delivers on these promises, the result is going to be huge.

One caveat in the footnotes though: All-day battery life is eight hours idling? I can turn off the device or send it (automatically) to stand-by if it doesn't do a thing. I want 12 hours+ with wireless connectivity turned on and being able to do things as well like browsing the web, editing content, possibly transferring pictures. THAT'd be all-day battery life for me.

 

[digitalwanderer]

12 hours of watching HD viddy while having an IRC channel going in the background with some web browsing, THAT would be all-day battery life for me.

 

[thatdude90210]

Fusion appears to be making a pretty good dent on Intel's Atom market. Too bad they got into this market so late.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20066286-64.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

In further conversations with AMD this week, I was told it has delivered about 5 million Fusion chips since their introduction in the fourth quarter of 2010, and that the total includes somewhere between 3.5 million and 4 million in the most recent (first) quarter. And this number will undoubtedly increase when AMD discloses more numbers at the end of the current quarter. This is enough to dent Atom shipments, since the first-quarter Fusion number cited above comprises more than half the average number of Atom processors shipped per quarter.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20066286-64.html#ixzz1NhfA1pag

 

[eastmen]

12 hours of watching HD viddy while having an IRC channel going in the background with some web browsing, THAT would be all-day battery life for me.

I'm just wondering , but do you just watch movies for 12 hours a day ?


in the handheld section some people said its nice for long long trips on air planes , but really 12 hours of watching a program in which you'd have no time to charge it ?


I dunno. I think 6 hours video and 8 hours or so of web surfing is more than enough for any of these devices.

 

[fehu]

amd keep selling fusion chips but the only netbook that i can find is a 399€ sony

 

[Harison]

When AMD delivers on these promises, the result is going to be huge.

One caveat in the footnotes though: All-day battery life is eight hours idling? I can turn off the device or send it (automatically) to stand-by if it doesn't do a thing. I want 12 hours+ with wireless connectivity turned on and being able to do things as well like browsing the web, editing content, possibly transferring pictures. THAT'd be all-day battery life for me.

Pavilion dm1z's Fusion platform was solid but uninspiring, its battery life was excellent. The system ran for 5 hours and 19 minutes on our video playback battery drain test, which is better than the 11-inch MacBook Air and every other 11-inch laptop we've tested in recent memory.

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-pavilion-dm1z/4505-3121_7-34467063.html?tag=rvwBody

In my experience, video playback is burning battery 2-3x faster than normal office work, therefore 12-15 hours of work is reasonable to expect from such netbooks. Its pretty fantastic IMO :smile:
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If longer battery life is needed, C-Z series, or better yet - G series with TDP of 5.5W.

ARM is still the king of power efficiency, but x86 has app and performance advantage I prefer.

 

[Arun]

In my experience, video playback is burning battery 2-3x faster than normal office work, therefore 12-15 hours of work is reasonable to expect from such netbooks. Its pretty fantastic IMO :smile:

That depends completely on the architecture, so I doubt it's quite that high. Still very solid though.

 

[CarstenS]

In my experience, video playback is burning battery 2-3x faster than normal office work, therefore 12-15 hours of work is reasonable to expect from such netbooks. Its pretty fantastic IMO :smile:
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If longer battery life is needed, C-Z series, or better yet - G series with TDP of 5.5W.

ARM is still the king of power efficiency, but x86 has app and performance advantage I prefer.

I've had a C-50 based netbook with me at Computex since my Atom-based Laptop only yields 5 hrs. at most running on batteries. The C-50 Netbook ran with moderate use 8 to 9 hours and while I've only used it sporadically between meetings, I've never had to use a wall socket during the day. So, if placed inside a decent environment, it looks like AMD already can deliver large parts of their promise.

C-50, though, is only a dual-core with 1,0 GHz.