KILLZONE Shadow Fall [PS4]

Silent_Buddha · Nov 21, 2013

RenegadeRocks said:
But yes, everyone to their own observations.
Here's another one from Gaf , but from a capture card. The person mentioned his capture card cannot capture at 1080p but only 1080i, so there might eb aliasing, according to him:

Yeah, I may just have to try to not comment on graphics in the launch titles. Even in that screen there's a whole lot of disappointing textures which are oddly blurred. As well as some really horrible transparency aliasing and specular aliasing. Edge AA is pretty decent for the most part however.

I probably have higher expectations of next gen than what the hardware is capable of and/or developers have time for in the launch window.

Regards,
SB

patsu · Nov 21, 2013

Silent_Buddha said:
Ouch, that looks so horrible and jarring with the blurry low resolution rounded rocks contrasted against the sharp good looking stone in the upper left corner as well as the shoe and the gun. The shoe itself has what appears to be relatively low resolution on the laces themselves.

Is the entire game this badly inconsistent?

Regards,
SB

And I thought people said resolution doesn't matter !

I'm still very early in the game. Got sidetracked to play Resogun over and over again. ;-)

A few things stand out compared to last gen:

* No more flickering and chunky shadows ! (At least I haven't see them so far)

* Screen is too clean (and shiny) compared to KZ2 but you knew I would complain about this already.

* There seems to be a lot of details (almost too much) in the background now compared to PS3 games.

After this launch game phase, I assume the art directors will have more control over how things look.

Scott_Arm · Nov 21, 2013

Shifty Geezer said:
Those shoelaces are a disgrace. This is supposed to be next-gen. Guerilla really dropped the ball on this one.

Forest for the trees #lastgenshoelaces

patsu · Nov 21, 2013

Oh it's just karma planting. We'll see the karma flow when release XB1 games are shown. #themeaningoflife

hesido · Nov 21, 2013

Globalisateur said:
I think the blurring may be caused (or aggravated) by the FXAA. That's typical.

I wish developers would remove some lighting/shaders and add better morphological antialiasing like SMAA instead.

What is the point of High res textures with great lightings if it is blurred by cheap FXAA (the new Quincunx)? People nowadays know FXAA is bad and would prefer enhanced sharpness over a few visible edges. Look at the glorious recent AA (maybe SMAA, not sure) added in PS4 AC4. A lot less blurry.

And recent SMAA like SMAA T2x by Crytek are roughly as expensive as FXAA and much better. that's really the future of AA IMHO. I just read an article about it:

iryoku.com/smaa/

I think they look superb. The blurring is probably not caused by FXAA, but the fact that the cobble stones are probably texture effects ([strike]normal[/strike]/parallax/[strike]displacement??[/strike],most likely parallax but the shadows do look sweet) as opposed to the sharp true geometry edges creates that contrast. Which I'm OK with. Ironically, this contrast would be much less apparent if it was a 720p game

The parts in shadows look exceptional, IMHO.

rockaman · Nov 21, 2013

patsu said:
And I thought people said resolution doesn't matter !

I'm still very early in the game. Got sidetracked to play Resogun over and over again. ;-)

A few things stand out compared to last gen:

* No more flickering and chunky shadows ! (At least I haven't see them so far)

* Screen is too clean (and shiny) compared to KZ2 but you knew I would complain about this already.

* There seems to be a lot of details (almost too much) in the background now compared to PS3 games.

After this launch game phase, I assume the art directors will have more control over how things look.

There is shadow flickering, but it's much less common.

Where there are the stair stepping shadows, It's blended together much better though, so you only find it if you stand still and look for it (or take a screenshot).

The lighting is incredibly high quality though, tons of volumetric lighting in many of the SP levels, even MP levels.

SlimJim · Nov 21, 2013

Shifty Geezer said:
Those shoelaces are a disgrace. This is supposed to be next-gen. Guerilla really dropped the ball on this one.

I just canceled my pre-order. That is PS4 pre-order.

Billy Idol · Nov 22, 2013

SlimJim said:
I just canceled my pre-order. That is PS4 pre-order.

I changed my pre-order to a Wuu...but gamestop guy didn't know the system and had to google it, so I gave up and bought a YoYo instead (analogue device, but the heck it is challenging!!! Only hardcore audience...for sure!)

RenegadeRocks · Nov 22, 2013

Billy Idol said:
I changed my pre-order to a Wuu...but gamestop guy didn't know the system and had to google it, so I gave up and bought a YoYo instead (analogue device, but the heck it is challenging!!! Only hardcore audience...for sure!)

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RenegadeRocks · Nov 22, 2013

Silent_Buddha said:
Yeah, I may just have to try to not comment on graphics in the launch titles. Even in that screen there's a whole lot of disappointing textures which are oddly blurred. As well as some really horrible transparency aliasing and specular aliasing. Edge AA is pretty decent for the most part however.

I probably have higher expectations of next gen than what the hardware is capable of and/or developers have time for in the launch window.

Regards,
SB

The aliasing in this shot could be due to the 1080i capture, as the original person mentioned.

As for next gen expectations, I am in the same boat as you, I was expecting much much more, just like last gen, but I have adjusted my expectations accordingly sice the companies started showing their titles. After all, this is the hardware, we can't help it anymore, and its not like there's no improvement.

Bagel seed · Nov 22, 2013

I got to chapter 7(?), the part after you escort the lady scientist back to your guys, and now I have to mow down hundreds of Higs. Holy crap that is such a horrible battle

I keep dying when the attack drones appear.

Shifty Geezer · Nov 22, 2013

SlimJim said:
I just canceled my pre-order. That is PS4 pre-order.

Good for you. I had to order a PS4 KZ bundle just so I could cancel it and register my disgust. We have to present a united consumer front against shoddy developers cutting corners like quality of show-lace textures.

loekf · Nov 22, 2013

Shifty Geezer said:
Good for you. I had to order a PS4 KZ bundle just so I could cancel it and register my disgust. We have to present a united consumer front against shoddy developers cutting corners like quality of show-lace textures.

Actually I'm surprised that in this futuristic game people are still using shoe-laces. Maybe you should rephrase it as "shoddy developers lacking creativity to go all the way in the future".

Besides... complaining about shoe-laces, where is the dog-poo ? GG is in Amsterdam you know ;-)

Deleted member 86764 · Nov 22, 2013

Shifty Geezer said:
Those shoelaces are a disgrace. This is supposed to be next-gen. Guerilla really dropped the ball on this one.

Let's boycott GG until they patch in some good quality shoelaces. Maybe it's because the PS4 doesn't have enough SOCs, I hear the Xbox One has three; I'm fairly sure one of those could be used for the sole purpose of rendering some good quality laces.

I must be looking at a different game, those pebbles looks incredible to me and much better than the rocks that's in the top left of the screen.

Arwin · Nov 22, 2013

Particularly in motion the game is impressive, I feel (from the small things I've seen streamed so far, don't want too many spoilers). The single player campaign has some spiffing effects like very nice smoke and great lighting. Can't wait to see it live next week on my new TV. On Gamers with Jobs, which are primarily PC based, I think Jake said it really looks better than anything he's ever played so far on any platform, and he has a pretty serious PC. Even his wife walked into the room and went 'whoa, what's that' . ..

RenegadeRocks · Nov 22, 2013

Arwin said:
Particularly in motion the game is impressive, I feel (from the small things I've seen streamed so far, don't want too many spoilers). The single player campaign has some spiffing effects like very nice smoke and great lighting. Can't wait to see it live next week on my new TV. On Gamers with Jobs, which are primarily PC based, I think Jake said it really looks better than anything he's ever played so far on any platform, and he has a pretty serious PC. Even his wife walked into the room and went 'whoa, what's that' . ..

Yep, I just watched a walkthrough by Rajman and the sunlight is so damn impressive. And they are so confident of the rendering that the whole city was always visible during the gameplay. Its as if the game is saying that we are showing u the whole city while u play just because we can

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Prettiest game I have seen

rockaman · Nov 22, 2013

Now that some of the pedantry has been balanced out with people who actually are interested in the game... here are some screens...

Bagel seed · Nov 22, 2013

Anyone beat the game yet? Dunno if I can get past this ch 7 part, what a pain. It reminds me of the last battle in KZ2 but worse..

rockaman · Nov 22, 2013

Help for Bagel

Grab one of their chain guns and go to the side of the map, and you can funnel them into your direction. You can use the OWL to stun them or shoot at them to make it easier too. This is for one of the tight areas with lots of enemies.

If you mean the really large area where you are on a balcony, you can use the PN weapon that kills any enemy and anything else quite fast, and there are tons of them on the racks behind you. Also you can use trip mines scattered there.

Bagel seed · Nov 22, 2013

Ok, I'll give that a shot. I saw the laser trip mines but ignored them. I am using the voltage whatever cannon gun though.

My impressions on the game so far is that it's quite pretty, but the campaign and story presentation is very B level. Granted, I wasn't expecting much in that department. As I've said before, they need some ND like talent over at GG to tighten up their plots and storylines.

Multi should be where it's at though, haven't tried it yet.

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