RenegadeRocks
Legend
No wonder there are courses in colleges for being a critic. Its not everybody's skill.
GT review is spoilerfic? Thanx for telling, not watching.
GT review is spoilerfic? Thanx for telling, not watching.
KILLZONE Shadow Fall [PS4]
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They can be subjective all the want imho, but from an objective standpoint. Judge the game on it's own, not on who is buying advertising on site, not on how to generate the most clicks, not because the girl that left you was a fan of the series, not because you made a bet on how quick you kill a franchise, not because you are a Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft/PC fan.Not because you want to play something else, not because you hate the genre.
I am aware that it's hard to do that, but if you aren't just pretending to be a journalist you will know that it's your basic duty to do your best in that regard. And if you can't be neutral, then tell your readers about your bias so they know.
I have read alot of DVD and Blu-Ray reviews, those reviews are often head and shoulders above the work i see on gaming sites, and shows a professional balance of bias,subjective opinions and objective/neutral reasoning. Something polygon fails completely, IF the closing line was real. If not then it's just a review that falls out of the norm for Killzone showing that polygon likes killzone less than all the other review sites, making their reviews less trustworthy than the others, imho.
EG: "Guerrilla has removed any form of aim assist from the game, and you won't notice - other than to remark that it feels like a barrier between you and the game has been lifted."
You can only judge on how something affects you. You cannot say something is good because you BELIEVE other people find it good. You have to say what you feel.
Can you post some links?
Highdefdigest.com and dvdfile.com is/was my sources
Can you post a link to any particular review that you think was good?
It's always difficult to rate a launch game anyway. But I can believe that there are inconsistencies in the game as well. In the Eurogamer review, they motivate it fairly clearly - the reviewer really liked the open, free gameplay in the city, and any excursion from there (should not really be a spoiler if you've played any Killzone games) was a disappointment in comparison.
Not an easy job it's a general observation based on many years of reading them. They are not flawless, and maybe it's easier reviewing movies.
But a quick peak so i can get what I deserve?
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1177/celinedion_newday.html
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/8524/twilight_breaking_p2.html
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/7145/prometheus.html
Isn't there a certain pattern to polygon's reviews of highprofile playstation exclusives? After Last of Us, 5 out of 10 for KZ (lowest score given).
There's no doubt that everybody is entitled to his opinion, but reviewer should think (to some extent) about his readers expectations toward the game. And these, I think, has been met in KZ.
But he didn't even try to aim beyond his own prejudices or preferences.
Personally I hate CoD series - to me it is the same product in slightly diffrent package every year. Nevertheless, on many occasions I recomended the series to some of my friends who were looking for good multiplayer experience, because I know that majority of gamers seems to like it.
To me KZ is 7,5 - 8,5/10 game. 5/10 mark is reserved for games that has some serious flaws or shortcomigs, which is not the case - at least they haven't been mentioned in the polygon's review.
There's no doubt that everybody is entitled to his opinion, but reviewer should think (to some extent) about his readers expectations toward the game. And these, I think, has been met in KZ.
But he didn't even try to aim beyond his own prejudices or preferences.
Personally I hate CoD series - to me it is the same product in slightly diffrent package every year. Nevertheless, on many occasions I recomended the series to some of my friends who were looking for good multiplayer experience, because I know that majority of gamers seems to like it.
To me KZ is 7,5 - 8,5/10 game. 5/10 mark is reserved for games that has some serious flaws or shortcomigs, which is not the case - at least they haven't been mentioned in the polygon's review.
Sigfried1977
Legend
There are some pretty damn good game critics/bloggers out there who are also excellent writers. They also tend to be the most outspoken ones and are usully dismissed as being "the odd ones out". Thinking about the likes of Tom Chick or Leigh Alexander here. I also like Jim Sterling.
As for the reviews with drastically different scores: that is exactly what I want. I'm interested in different takes on the same thing. Same with movies. Whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant as long as they can back up their opinions with solid arguments.
And where is this "Polygon has an anti-PS3 bias nonsense coming from?" They didn't exactly love the hell out of The Last of Us (neither did I), but so what? On the other hand they gave Beyond an 8 out of 10 while Rain and the new Ratchet game both got an 8.5. That's way above the Metacritic average for all of them. Most of the earlier PS3 exclusives happened way before Polygon even existed.
Sorry but I wish I had read more reviews of TLOU that said more than 'ZOMG MASTERPIECE!!111!!' cause i'm one of those that didn't get into it at all. Actually i don't wish that, since i didn't even pay for the game, but that's a clear sign that different people have different tastes.
We are all entitled to enjoy whatever we feel, and vice versa.
We are all entitled to enjoy whatever we feel, and vice versa.
Imo reviews are irrelevant, KZ is a poster child for the ps4 capabilities, it graduated with mention.
Now there are plenty of other fps with possibly better gameplay but who cares, it is all about buying the shiniest toy in the shop.
I think it is going to sell well enough.
Now there are plenty of other fps with possibly better gameplay but who cares, it is all about buying the shiniest toy in the shop.
I think it is going to sell well enough.
So what I'm getting from this, is whoever reviewed Killzone SF for Polygon should have rated it higher, because people liked the other games in the series and they should expect their readers to be fans of the series. Sounds very objective ...
No matter how many things you pick out that can be looked at it an objective fashion, the end result is going to be whether the reviewer liked something, which is very subjective. Why would I ever read a review if the author didn't tell me whether they liked the product? The game could be a buggy mess, and I'd hope they'd tell me that, but in the end maybe they still think the game is incredibly fun. I might not think so, but they do.
Get over it.
No matter how many things you pick out that can be looked at it an objective fashion, the end result is going to be whether the reviewer liked something, which is very subjective. Why would I ever read a review if the author didn't tell me whether they liked the product? The game could be a buggy mess, and I'd hope they'd tell me that, but in the end maybe they still think the game is incredibly fun. I might not think so, but they do.
Get over it.
Gaming is an interactive medium. The joy from the medium is largely related to the experience it provides to the gamer and how well it hooks them.
Sure graphics and sound make up a piece of it but often once immersed, the mind tends to dismiss small inconsistencies in those areas.
However, if a game has poor controls or the general feel isn't good, you're constantly being kicked out of this immersion. If the game has a crap storyline and poor character development, single player starts feeling like a chore. This game that looked amazing in screenshots isn't translating to fun and that's really what reviews should be about.
I like reviews in which a reviewes will first step through what they enjoy in the genre and then compare how they game they are reviewing aligns with those expectations.
When they do this, it allows me to see how well my views align with the writer and what weight I put towards their criticism. That tells me how much the score matters.
Because I actually take the time to do this comparative analysis and don't have the time, I generally only stick to a couple of publications that typically align with my criteria for good immersion.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
I don'tr think this debate started because their score was low.
ANyways, Has anyone got the ps4 yet
? has anyone played the game? ppl are saying the opening sucks .
Anybody ere? Please post some screenshot and videos , we want to see those functions of the ps4.
ANyways, Has anyone got the ps4 yet
? has anyone played the game? ppl are saying the opening sucks .Anybody ere? Please post some screenshot and videos , we want to see those functions of the ps4.
djskribbles
Legend
I don't have an issue with any gaming site, except Polygon... they just seem so unprofessional to me, particularly Arthur Gies.
Reviews for money, cannot get more professional than that.
