Kerry: Interngate Redux?

[London Geezer]

Cheating on your wife is breaking a promise and knowingly doing something you know will hurt the one you're supposed to love. It's like breaking a contract. It doesn't exactly exude trust.

The sex in itself doesn't matter. He can screw whoever he want, he can live in an open relationship and all that. However, he is married. He have made a promise to be truthful to his wife. He should keep his promises, or divorce.

Of course, but that doesn't make him any way less fit for a job of responsibility such as that one. People are different in their personal and professional lives

 

[Humus]

Sure, but personal trust in the guy matters a lot for a lot of people.

 

[RussSchultz]

Personally, I'd like my leaders of importance to not open themselves up for blackmail by dallying around behind their wives back.

If his wife's OK with it, then ok by me. But it doesn't sound like it, from her response to an interview question over Hillary/Bill and that kerfluffle.

 

[Silent_One]

Of course, but that doesn't make him any way less fit for a job of responsibility such as that one. People are different in their personal and professional lives.

Some are, some are not. Of course a person's character doesn't matter does it?

 

[Natoma]

Personally, I'd like my leaders of importance to not open themselves up for blackmail by dallying around behind their wives back.

If his wife's OK with it, then ok by me. But it doesn't sound like it, from her response to an interview question over Hillary/Bill and that kerfluffle.

Agreed. If this is true, it's for him and his wife to fight about. It doesn't concern me imo, unless there was criminal behavior involved with this intern. But then, not all the details are out yet, so we'll see when the stories are released in another couple of weeks.

 

[John Reynolds]

Some are, some are not. Of course a person's character doesn't matter does it?

Of course character matters. It's just that our society has some seriously f*cked up ways of prioritizing things.

 

[Vince]

Of course, but that doesn't make him any way less fit for a job of responsibility such as that one. People are different in their personal and professional lives

I disagree, the way someone is in their personal life, in all probability, more correctly reflects their internal beliefs, morals and values than some fabricated persona they and their political handlers have crafted to dissimulate their true character.

The same fallicious reasoning you're attempting to push would lead to analogous situations in which you'd advocate known pedophiles right to watch children alone as that's their "personal" life and doesn't make him any "less fit" to hold an 'unrelated' position like, say, teach a high-school gym class. Because, if the event did contain a violation of trust as Humus discussed, then that same trust applies across the entire spectrum of interactions which depend on trust; just as in my example which just happens to be a legal convention at this point in society with state procecution, just as cheating on your wife once was.

Unless you're admitting he has some sort of sonality disorder, in which case I don't think he should even be considering holding such an office.

 

[Natoma]

Come now Vince. It's not like Kerry pulled a Woody Allen here.

 

[Sxotty]

You know what I find funny, whoever the guy is trying to get the nominations always makes all these polarizing comments to win their political parts, then gets a moderate VP and becomes suddenly moderate to win the election... they are all liars! yay...

If we had a none of the above option and that would make a runoff then I would be for it, or if we just had a run off so people could vote for whomever they wanted and not vote against whoever they despise...

I think cheating on your wife is a bad thing btw, I agree with humus' take on it. Of course if his wife was cool with it then...

 

[Vince]

Come now Vince. It's not like Kerry pulled a Woody Allen here.

HAHA! I love it.

Although, seriously, we do not yet know what (or who) went down and untill we do I believe my comments are valid wrt character. Perhaps, the one-strike-you're-fucked-for-life mentality isn't fair, but it's what's out there and considering the limitations of knowing what a person is really like - I think it's a valid metric across the board. I hold myself to that standard in these cases, I'd expect no less from others. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[fbg1]

He should keep his promises, or divorce.

He can't divorce Theresa, or he'll have no one to fund his campaigns.

Otherwise I agree with your assessment. Cheating on your spouse does matter, and even if there are a lot of people that do it, that doesn't make it a good or desireable thing. People tend to throw away their integrity at the drop of hat nowadays in exchange for pleasure or money. It's not unreasonable to seek evidence of integrity in people, especially your politicians, and marital fidelity is one indicator.

 

[Silent_One]

He can't divorce Theresa, or he'll have no one to fund his campaigns.

She's got a lot of $$$$ ($750-800 Million!) Don't want to lose that now do we....

Of course he'll dismiss the whole thing....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3486879.stm

On Friday Senator Kerry dismissed a claim by an internet gossip site that he had had an affair with a female intern.

"Well there is nothing to report, so there is nothing to talk about," he told MSNBC television. "There's nothing there. There's no story."

And he said he was ready for attacks from Republicans.

"These guys will want to try to do everything to change the subject," he said in an interview on the Don Imus radio programme

So maybe something happened, maybe nothing happened....time will tell...

 

[Natoma]

Come now Vince. It's not like Kerry pulled a Woody Allen here.

HAHA! I love it.

Although, seriously, we do not yet know what (or who) went down and untill we do I believe my comments are valid wrt character. Perhaps, the one-strike-you're-fucked-for-life mentality isn't fair, but it's what's out there and considering the limitations of knowing what a person is really like - I think it's a valid metric across the board. I hold myself to that standard in these cases, I'd expect no less from others. Wouldn't you agree?

I agree. All I'm saying is that if you dig deep enough, you will find unsavory, character defaming, skeletons in anyone's closet.

I can't judge Kerry if he cheated on his wife frankly. I've done a lot of unsavory things in my life that I can easily be judged on, as I'm sure you have, and everyone else has. I'm only concerned if what he did was criminal. Whatever else happens is between him and his wife imo.

 

[Silent_One]

I've done a lot of unsavory things in my life that I can easily be judged on, as I'm sure you have, and everyone else has. I'm only concerned if what he did was criminal. Whatever else happens is between him and his wife imo.

And I disagree. You are not running for office. I'm not concerned with your personal life and your potential flaws unless you can affect my life and/or societys. IF kerry cheated on his wife I can and will judge him differently for I hold him to a higher standard than you.

 

[Willmeister]

It turns out it's not much of a probe. When asked the Washington Post, Time and Newsweek were surprised that they were actually investigating a story they knew they weren't.

 

[RussSchultz]

I bet they are now...

 

[epicstruggle]

source:http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040213-113151-1455r.htm

Also Friday the Chicago Sun-Times reported former Vice President Al Gore knew about the allegations, which was why he endorsed former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean instead of Kerry.

Well I guess Kerry was AWOL from his vows with his wife.

later,
epic

 

[Humus]

In any case though, it's best wait on passing the judgement until we know if there's any truth to this story.

 

[Clashman]

In any case though, it's best wait on passing the judgement until we know if there's any truth to this story.

And if there is truth to this, I sure as hope it starts tearing up the headlines before these damned primaries are over, and we get stuck with Kerry as the "alternative" to Bush!

 

[RussSchultz]

In any case though, it's best wait on passing the judgement until we know if there's any truth to this story.

And if there is truth to this, I sure as hope it starts tearing up the headlines before these damned primaries are over, and we get stuck with Kerry as the "alternative" to Bush!

Thats why I don't believe that its a 'karl rove dirty trick', but either something from Dean or Edwards. They're the ones who have something to gain at the moment.