Is Ken finished at Sony?

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Demoted Sony Electronics Guru Is Outspoken

Mon Apr 4, 9:32 PM ET Technology - AP

By YURI KAGEYAMA, AP Business Writer

TOKYO - Ken Kutaragi, whose name is often paired with "geek" and "genius," seemed to many a logical choice to take Sony Corp (SNE.N).'s helm as it struggles to turn around its stumbling electronics business. He is, after all, known as "Father of the PlayStation" for siring the industry's most popular video game console.

And Kutaragi's latest creation, the handheld PlayStation Portable, is hot. An estimated 3 million been sold since it was released in Japan in December and the United States last month.

But instead of ascending in the dramatic management reshuffle last month that put Howard Stringer in the chief executive's chair, Kutaragi was demoted.

Not only was Kutaragi passed over for the Welshman who had overseen Sony's music and movie businesses. He also lost his seat on Sony's board, though he still runs Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc., the company's game subsidiary.

It appears the 54-year-old Kutaragi's outspoken nature, in a corporate culture that's oiled by consensus, may be to blame. Independent and shockingly frank by Japanese standards, Kutaragi hasn't held back from criticizing company decisions.

In January, he told the Foreign Correspondents' Club in Tokyo that fellow executives had been overly restrictive in controlling Sony content in a world where consumers of digital movies and music want hassle-free access.

Asked what he would do if he were running Sony, Kutaragi said the company must revive its original innovative spirit, when it boasted engineering finesse with the transistor radio, Walkman and Trinitron TV.

Sony also has been hurt by its insistence on making its content proprietary, Kutaragi said.

Some employees, he said, have been frustrated for years with management's reluctance to introduce products similar to Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod portable music player, mainly because Sony's music and movie units were worried about content rights.

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All old news, except the 3 million PSPs sold which I view as a bald faced lie! There were <1 million PSPs sold in Japan when it launched in the US, where about 500,000 have been sold. 3 million PSPs shipped, maybe, but not sold.
 
They always tell the "shipped" numbers.
And by "they" I mean them all, not just Sony.
Just because PSP is the media sexy device now, they are finding things to report no matter where.
Have DS numbers been all sold numbers? Halo 2? GTA:SA? GT4?.... It's just that the media isn't always bothered to care whether they are shipped or sold.
 
I've heard Sony's accounting practices for official numbers are actually units "shipped to Sony warehouses", whereas Nintendo and Microsoft's figures reflect "shipped to retail".
 
Dunno, but I have seen figures for Shipped and Sold as marked as such. eg. GT4 SHIPPED 3 million units to the EU.
 
Lazy8s said:
I've heard Sony's accounting practices for official numbers are actually units "shipped to Sony warehouses", whereas Nintendo and Microsoft's figures reflect "shipped to retail".
Of course :rolleyes:

Really, I don't think it makes much difference whether the goods are sitting in a few logistic centres, in store storerooms.
I doubt MS, N or Sony ship much anything directly to stores, from Japan factory to local electronics store :LOL:
They all have logistics centres around the world, outsourced or self owned, and I do doubt that none of them use the shipped from logistic centres as the PR "shipped" numbers.
You do believe there's such a fairy tale creature as "honest marketing person", do you ;)
 
I'm serious. Upon studying some of Sony's disclosures a couple years back, an old moderator at Gaming-Age ("Sonic"?, different Sonic than Beyond3D) pointed out that their numbers and statements seemed to reflect this.
 
Lazy8s said:
I've heard Sony's accounting practices for official numbers are actually units "shipped to Sony warehouses", whereas Nintendo and Microsoft's figures reflect "shipped to retail".
:LOL: And let me guess, Sega's numbers reflect units that are actually sold and turned on, cause Sega's amazing customer services calls up everyone that ever bought one to know how they're doing, then count them all up and that's how they got their numbers from!!! :devilish:
 
Surely where there shipped to is irrelevant? If they're counting units regardless of being sold, they need only mention units manufactured. Whether they're sat in shops, warehouses or the factory floor, they're ready to be sold without anyone yet having bought them.
 
london-boy:
And let me guess, Sega's numbers reflect units that are actually sold and turned on,
SEGA actually did have an automatic authentication of active users who used the Dreamcast's online functionality.
 
So does Sony and MS, you register when you go online. At least in Sony's case you cant play some of the games without registering at Sony Central Station, and I think you had to even give your machine and NA s/n during the first registration.
And with every PS2 sold comes a registration card you can send to Sony, so that you'll receive free demo discs (I haven't got any even though I registered at launch, I did get some with PSOne)
 
Even if it is "shipped" or "sold to distributors" rather than sold (since no area outside of Japan has solid numbers on that anyway, I have no idea how we'd tell--which is why all press releases are shifty on those points), they couldn't be at 3 million anyway. To date they're just under 1.2 million units sold in Japan, and they said they prepared 1 million for the US launch, so... where are the other 800K or so?

I'd actually want to see what figures the reporter is quoting before judging, as we don't know what was said, and we can't tell offhand if it's being reported on correctly. What if it's simply a typo and was supposed to say "2" instead of "3"? That's almost exactly where they're at. Heh...
 
cthellis42 said:
Even if it is "shipped" or "sold to distributors" rather than sold (since no area outside of Japan has solid numbers on that anyway, I have no idea how we'd tell--which is why all press releases are shifty on those points), they couldn't be at 3 million anyway. To date they're just under 1.2 million units sold in Japan, and they said they prepared 1 million for the US launch, so... where are the other 800K or so?

I'd actually want to see what figures the reporter is quoting before judging, as we don't know what was said, and we can't tell offhand if it's being reported on correctly. What if it's simply a typo and was supposed to say "2" instead of "3"? That's almost exactly where they're at. Heh...

A couple problems though. (a) Sales chart accuracy has never been confirmed. For as long as I know, they've only been used to track *relative* performance of games/systems, not as an actual marker of sales. All sales charts have been off the shipped figures for all the companies. (b) IF Sony actually managed to ship 100k per week in Japan like they claimed months ago, then they should have shipped close to 2M units there by now.

And since there's no NPD figures yet, I don't think that reporter is listing sold, I think he's talking about shipped figures. Shipped=sold to the manufacturers. PEACE.
 
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