Looks like Intel confirmed the move. Chief Architect and Senior VP...
http://techreport.com/news/32811/ra...s-head-of-new-core-and-visual-computing-group
http://techreport.com/news/32811/ra...s-head-of-new-core-and-visual-computing-group
So the enthusiast/some prosumer now expected to spend $1,200 every 14-24 months now to upgrade the GPU?The upgrade cycle wouldn't be all that different from most smartphones. Costs may come down as well once the design scales up. NUCs for example would be far cheaper than laptop designs. Outside of enterprise, I'm unsure how much demand will exist for discrete cards. There's really no reason a larger, or more power efficient GPU couldn't be included. Power usage might be high, but with an embedded chip the size of a Threadripper or larger cooling isn't that difficult. Also means one giant heatsink instead of multiple smaller ones with airflow issues.
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If you purchased one of these enthusiast mobile EMIB notebooks, how would a consumer replace the installed semi-custom GPU with the next generation semi-custom EMIB GPU?EMIB is there for the HBM. Intel can still release discrete cards (or go dual socket) and get in on the faster GPU upgrade cycle.
I don't think anyone expects consumers to upgrade their laptop every year or two. I should have been more clear, my point was that EMIB is interesting for an entry into the mid to high-end GPU market because it allows Intel to immediately add value with cheaper HBM integration and a smaller overall package, even if they don't yet have a competitive GPU. If you're an OEM producing Intel-based systems that sell for $1000 or more, why would you not want the more efficient design? Apple execs went out of their way to praise HMB during the last Mac keynote.If you purchased one of these enthusiast mobile EMIB notebooks, how would a consumer replace the installed semi-custom GPU with the next generation semi-custom EMIB GPU?
It is unknown if they can even be purchased outside of the complete notebook/mobile product beyond being sourced to OEMs as a package (meaning with CPU).
The average user never upgrades anything. They buy a new system because they want their operating system upgraded to the latest internet explorer. These systems likely wouldn't be big enough to support any discrete cards. Perhaps a dual socket design, but if stacked ram takes hold the entire motherboard is probably one embedded part. Much cheaper with no memory or slots adding complexity.It is hard enough to get them to just replace the CPU every 4 years, let alone to convince them to spend substantially more to upgrade their GPU on same cycle as before.
Consumer stuff is still >50% of their revenue stream.Yep I suppose Intel isn't stupid and noticed NVidia is finally raking in the dough on all that GPGPGPGPGPU stuff.
Now that's an interesting topic.Indeed the mystery is what is going on at RTG.
No.Is Intel going to own the place next month?
That looks...
Does the press release actually say that, though? As in that they will be *making* (i.e. developing) high-end discrete GPUs.And Intel will be making discrete high-end GPUs.
https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/raja-koduri-joins-intel/
Does the press release actually say that, though? As in that they will be *making* (i.e. developing) high-end discrete GPUs.
Every news site seems to be jumping to that conclusion, but the wording ("Expand Strategy to Deliver High-End, Discrete Graphics Solutions") is sufficiently vague that the very product announcement this thread is based on seems to fit that bill as well.
What is the source for that? It's exactly what I've been articulating the past year or two, just with the DIMMs still present. Get those off of there and the fun begins!
The average user never upgrades anything. They buy a new system because they want their operating system upgraded to the latest internet explorer. These systems likely wouldn't be big enough to support any discrete cards. Perhaps a dual socket design, but if stacked ram takes hold the entire motherboard is probably one embedded part. Much cheaper with no memory or slots adding complexity.
Huh?That's a good point—that I have a feeling @silent_guy will appreciate.