I didn't know that.....
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I'm assuming you are reffering to sales tax when you say "whithout taxes"?
If so suppose that depends on what kind of sales tax your state/city has. My state/city has no sales tax so when it retails for $199 thats all I pay for it. Everywhere is different though and a cube or xbox shouldn't be any different.
If so suppose that depends on what kind of sales tax your state/city has. My state/city has no sales tax so when it retails for $199 thats all I pay for it. Everywhere is different though and a cube or xbox shouldn't be any different.
well, I thought it was pretty much common sense stuff.
Sales tax is the same no matter what hardware you buy, but no, its not exactly the same amongst the 3, its about what? 10% it seems
10% of $200 is $20, so that adds up to $220
GC is only $150, in which 10% is $15, which makes it come to around $165
Sales tax is the same no matter what hardware you buy, but no, its not exactly the same amongst the 3, its about what? 10% it seems
10% of $200 is $20, so that adds up to $220
GC is only $150, in which 10% is $15, which makes it come to around $165
DeathKnight
Regular
Used to have to only pay 6% here in Ohio, but recently they bumped it up to 7%... 
Wow, in Ontario we're stuck with a 15% sales tax :? Alaska has zero tax? Damn, what gives?
AFAIK, Canada/US are in the minority for listing prices w/o tax. I'd actually prefer them to go the Europe/rest-of-the-world-route, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
edit: actually 15% is misleading. That's a combination of PST (provincial sales tax) and GST (goods and services tax). Not everything includes GST.. just most things
AFAIK, Canada/US are in the minority for listing prices w/o tax. I'd actually prefer them to go the Europe/rest-of-the-world-route, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
edit: actually 15% is misleading. That's a combination of PST (provincial sales tax) and GST (goods and services tax). Not everything includes GST.. just most things
Evil_Cloud
Veteran
LisaJoy said:
Only 10% taxes???
I have to pay 21% taxes on luxery goods (games, music, cars,...)
Why would I want tax "hidden" in the price? I certainly DO want to see how much tax I am paying when I purchase things. Whenever I travel in Europe, I always ask for a VAT receipt if possible.
Maybe your salary should be adjusted as well to "hide" the income tax. Just have your company list people's salaries in terms of after tax values.
That way, you can gleefully live with the illusion daily of no taxes, without having the reality of something outrageous like a 17% tax on a purchase being made visible to you upfront.
Isn't labeling a good thing? Isn't giving full information to the consumer a good thing?
Maybe your salary should be adjusted as well to "hide" the income tax. Just have your company list people's salaries in terms of after tax values.
That way, you can gleefully live with the illusion daily of no taxes, without having the reality of something outrageous like a 17% tax on a purchase being made visible to you upfront.
Isn't labeling a good thing? Isn't giving full information to the consumer a good thing?
in new jersey sales tax is 6% . All the folks from new york , new york come over on saturdays and sundays to take advantage. But for one magical month of the year new york has no sales tax. Then we all go over there . Oh and union county in new jersey has 3% tax if i remembe corretly.
DemoCoder said:
23% here. Yeah, why should I care about the taxes? Its not me that pays them, but its the guy who I buy the goods from.
The taxes usually won't affect the consumers in any way. The market adopts to the changing taxes. The only thing one may notice is if taxes are reliefed or added (ie. relief of taxes for charity organisations) which is indirectly reflected onto the consumers.
If I am a business it gets different, because then I get to pay taxes for it when I resell it.
I don't see what you want to know how much goes into taxes, except if you want to act as if you've been treated bad. Another discussion that.
Yes, but does he really need to. Usually, not listing with VAT in Europe is only important for people in business, and usually is considered as tricking people into thinking something is cheaper than it is.
edit: and of course, information is good. but I feel it is more important to inform that the price is excluding vat.
zurich said:
I don't care if the price listed on the shelf factors in the tax, or not, I just want a receipt that lists everything at point of sale.
It is trivial for me to add a 5% or 8% tax mentally to my total. Americans are quite good at this e.g. multiplying by 1.05 or 1.08 is easy (or 1.0
in some places ). Division by 1.05 or 1.08 it hard. And of course, a handful of states have no sales tax at all.I personally find 17-23% an absurd consumption tax level. Paid by business my ass.
Why would I want to have a nonexistant lower price that I then have to readjust myself?Democoder said:
Especially having to account for different tax in every state/country - the price tag is supposed to be there to tell me how much something costs.
Afaik it's a normal thing in European countries nowadays to list the tax details on the receipt as well (well, at least in MY country it is). Doesn't mean the price tags must pretend to be something they are not though.
Actually that's also done in a number of European countries
Fafalada said:
Maybe because I'd like to know how much an item really costs vs how much the government is getting, and because I might want to either a) get a refund on the tax or b) avoid it entirely via the black market
When I travel in many countries, the "real price" for me is the price without the VAT/TVA/GST because I can get most of it refunded.
In the US, when someone is selling say, a video card for $200, I can usually get it and avoid sales tax by buying it from a state with sales tax, so for me, the sales tax is optional. Shipping costs are the real tax, but many places offer free shipping too.
Perhaps you would advocate that online prices simply "build in" the price of shipping for the same reason. After all, a $200 monitor bought online really isn't the same as a $200 monitor bought at a local store right? And of course, when buying a car, there are lots of fees that come with it too. Perhaps the lifetime maintainence should be factored into the sticker price as well.
Let's just dumb down everything so that the only thing people need to do to make financial decisions is to compare a single scalar value.
Are you people really so sheepish that you want important financial information hidden from view, rather than having it all available and doing the fourth grade math yourselves?
Actually that's also done in a number of European countries
Yay, they pay no income taxes at all. Tra-la-la. I personally like it beings rather clear that the government is taking 40+% of my income, rather than it being encrypted and obfuscated being creative accounting.
Yeah it's a bloody pain in the ars* when, as a tourist in the US, you've carefully worked out "exactly" what change to give the cashier and then he/she says some figure that's $X more. Arghhhh!!!!zurich said:
Thank god for WYSIWYP in Australia & Europe...
Oh, while on the subject... I bought some stuff from a shop in a US airport on the other side of emigration and had to pay tax?! What?! The cashier said "Oh, those shops over their have duty free..." but they only sold cigs/perfume/alcohol anyway and, besides, they were all closed
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