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Scientists foresee the end of the earth

Authors say our planet’s long-term fate is to ‘fry and dry’

May 12 — In 2000, paleontologist Peter D. Ward and astronomer Donald Brownlee argued persuasively in their book “Rare Earth” that life in all its complexity found on Earth is most likely a cosmic aberration, a unique circumstance that — if their theory is true — dashes the hopes of sci-fi fans and extraterrestrial hunters everywhere. This year, the authors returned with an analysis of Earth’s far-flung future that is as bleak as humanity’s chances of meeting E.T.s, intelligent or otherwise.

“THE LIFE and Death of Planet Earth” sees Earth slipping towards another ice age with dwindling natural resources, drastic environmental changes and eventually a suffocating death.

Perfect for summer reading, we say!
Co-author Donald Brownlee took the time to answer a few of Space.com’s questions about his latest book.

Space.com: The bottom line: Will we ultimately freeze, fry or just dry out?
Brownlee: We may “freeze” again in the future as we have in the past. This could be as severe as another “Snowball Earth” episode, or it could just be a continuation of glacial-interglacial cycles. On the long term, the fate is “fry and dry.” The sun continuously gets hotter, and its heat ultimately melts the earth’s surface — and worse.

In the grand scheme, will human activity alter Earth’s ultimate fate?
Humans have great effects on the short term (global warming, species extinction, etc.) but it is not likely that we can play an significant role in the main events that will change Earth on long time scales. These events include the merging of the continents (again), decline of CO2 below levels required to support plant life, the loss of the oceans to space and our planet being swallowed by the sun. Human intervention on these effects would require engineering on a incredible scale. The ultimate fate of Earth is determined by the ever-increasing brightness of the sun — a natural and unstoppable process.

Is there anything we can do to escape Earth’s fate? Maybe move it, or move us?
In the book we discuss ideas for moving Earth outwards as the sun gets brighter. As difficult as it seems, this is perhaps more likely than human migration to other planetary systems. It is the natural cycle of planets with life that they are ultimately are done in by their “life-supporting” star. Habitable planets have to form close to a star to have the right conditions to have surface water. Over time, all stars become brighter and the “habitable zone” moves outward, leaving the planet too hot for surface water.

Yesterday was pretty tough here on Earth. Tomorrow probably won’t be a picnic. Why worry about what’s going to happen in a few billion years?
We should not “worry” about things that happen millions of years beyond our lifetimes, but it is important that we know how nature (and our planet) works. We benefit greatly from knowledge of nature and natural processes. Even simply knowing that the earth is not flat and that we are not at the center of the universe greatly benefits our daily lives (GPS, weather satellites, etc.) in an enormous number of ways. By understanding the full cycle of planets, how they are born, evolve and ultimately die, we can better understand and appreciated our role in the cosmos.

What are the advantages to being able to predict the earth’s end?
For a person with a terminal disease, diagnosis is the first step to extending life, and improving its quality. The same is true for our planet. Knowing our problems gives us the ability to attempt a cure, or at least to put off the various ends of the earth, and of humanity.
Two variables, above all others, will control the destiny not only of life on Earth, but also, ultimately, of the planet itself. The first is the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. This greenhouse gas helps regulate our world’s temperature, and our planet is extraordinary in the systems it has to balance that greenhouse gas with incoming radiation.
The second system, and ultimately a far more important variable, is the amount of solar energy hitting our planet. The sun’s output level is changing over time. Mathematical modeling allows us to predict what these levels will be in the far future, and what their effects will be — and it doesn’t look good.

What most upsets you about science or scientists?
I love science and think that it is critical to our well being and future. Perhaps the most upsetting thing is the level of scientific illiteracy in the United States. My son in college is required to do four semesters on philosophy but only one on science. Everyone depends on science and understanding the natural world, but it is not stressed in schools. Only a tiny fraction of high school students take physics — the most fundamental of all of the sciences.

What is the most beautiful aspect to space?
Much of astronomy is beautiful images of planets, moons, asteroids, comets, sections of meteorites and lunar rocks, microscope images of extraterrestrial material and fabulous telescope images of many astronomical objects outside the solar system.

If you controlled a $1 billion foundation, what research effort would you fund?
A sample return mission from a comet.

University of Washington astronomer Donald Brownlee is the principal investigator for NASA's Stardust mission, which aims to bring cometary samples back to Earth. Brownlee holds a model of the Stardust spacecraft.

Why should we spend money on space exploration over research into deadly diseases? We can and should do both. Advances in science and understanding of nature are not always made by planned and directed programs such as the “war on cancer.” History has shown that many great breakthroughs (i.e., X-rays and even the Internet) come come from unexpected directions. Understanding the universe was the historical foundation of modern science, and it is still the leading edge of knowledge of the fundamental workings of nature. The recently announced results from the WMAP spacecraft are some of the most fundamental discoveries of our time.

What is the most vexing question in modern science?
The most vexing question will certainly depend on whom you ask. Personally, I would like to know how Earthlike planets form and what fraction are fully Earthlike in the sense that that could support animal life. My No. 1 near-term question is whether there is or was life in the solar system other than on earth. My guess is yes.
 
I think we have a paradox where in 150 years we need to burn coal again after 50 year hiatus of burning thre last of the oil to replenish c02 in the atmosphere to prevent another ice age... ice ages scare the shit out of me more than some warmer weather right now...
 
nah, I'm not afraid of ice ages because its a lot easier to create heat than it is to get rid of it.
 
Sage said:
nah, I'm not afraid of ice ages because its a lot easier to create heat than it is to get rid of it.

Ice age = another reason for me to stay behind my PC for another 18 years. :LOL:
 
ice age = doesn't come overnight like a cold wind


ice age = won't come until *some people* keep shitting gasses in the atmosphere, only thing it will avoid it.

ice age = such a good frikkin movie :LOL:
 
london-boy said:
ice age = won't come until *some people* keep shitting gasses in the atmosphere
good point, no more bean burritos for K.I.L.E.R!
 
Because of all the "cuddling" that goes on when it gets cold out. "Cuddling" leads to other... umm... Viagra related things.
 
covermye said:
Because of all the "cuddling" that goes on when it gets cold out. "Cuddling" leads to other... umm... Viagra related things.


gosh... u guys already need viagra? how old r u guys? :LOL:

i mean, i tried one once just to see the effects..... it's fun thats all i'm gonna say :LOL:
 
a very long time ago when it first came out I heard that if you took it then you had better do soemthing or else get BAD case of blueball :LOL:
 
Contrary to popular belief, Ice ages might not have been the so called 'snowball earth'. It might have been just a shift in climactic conditions. Eg certain spots ice over, others dethaw and become habitable.

Humans will migrate to the warm areas over time, just like in previous ice ages. It will be a long process that occurs very naturally over the course of millena.

Various theories point to the interchange of N-S magnetic poles, as well as a general freeze over the pole areas.

Pumping gas into the atmosphere might hasten the effects, so I wouldn't count that as necessarily something we want to do =)
 
As far as shifting the earth away from the sun. I am somewhat at a loss to explain the sort of grandeur of such an undertaking. It could be done of course (stick thousands of nuclear fusion powered rockets, and fire them over the course of say 10,000 years.. a small but nonnegligable acceleration). I imagine better solutions might exist, like opening holes in the atmosphere, so that we get a sort of 'jet' effect (how one would patch them up is another futuristic scenario)

The main problem of course is that great care must be taken to ensure the angular rotation speed of the earth is mantained, as well as the off axis 23 degree tilt. A change of even one degree in that inclination would be simply disastrous.
 
dont worry, the aryans who live in the middle of the earth and came from outter space will save us... :LOL:
 
Humans have great effects on the short term (global warming, species extinction, etc.) but it is not likely that we can play an significant role in the main events that will change Earth on long time scales.

That's mainly because we would make ourselves extinct in the process, which is a much more immediate danger than the end of the Earth.

As for another Ice Age, given the fact that people can live in Russia, Greenland, Canada, and Antarctica, I don't think we'll have any problem dealing with that. As long as we have power to heat our homes, we'll be fine from cold weather. However, finding a way to keep cool when the average temperature is 140 F outside is a slightly tougher problem.

I'm not so sure that the continents will merge again, and I don't understand his comments about the surface water disappearing into space.
 
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