How can Nvidia be ahead of ATI but 360 GPU is on par with RSX?

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dukmahsik said:
wow this thread just took a left turn at Albequerque

HAHAHA...yes it did. Everyone refrain from responding to that comment. I repeat...do NOT comment on that comment. This thread was on a role! Everyone participated...and its a wonderfull thread where the whole community got involved.
 
Alpha_Spartan said:
You act like devs can just push a magic button and make games run faster, add more polygons and add more effects. It doesn't work like that. In terms of architecture the alpha kits are 180 degrees different than the beta and final kits. Performance doesn't always scale linearly (is that a word?) with processor speed. In fact, the performance may even drop in some cases! We're talking an entire architectural shift going from alpha to beta.

It's not like PS3 devs who showed "games" developed on 6800's in SLI or 7800 GTX (in the case of the latter it, gives them 75% of PS3 performance). In fact, the most impressive Xbox 360 game at E3 was Gears of War. It looked leagues above everything else. We wondered why. We soon learned that the game wasn't developed using alpha kits, but rather using *gasp* 6800's in SLI. Epic did this because they wanted immediate results and they wanted to reach around 80% of their target performance right away. The best looking Xbox 360 games you will see are the games that started YESTERDAY...not two years ago. I think some of you guys are being unfair and just downright unreasonable. I mean, Gears of War is proof in the pudding as far as what happened.

I only assume what's been said by dev's.

It's easy to port/dev for. If the games specs/assets are such that they barely tax the system it shouldn't be too much trouble getting or at least aiming to get them to a rock solid 60fps + 4xAA-HDR, not 30fps or using 2xAA.
 
liverkick said:
Too hard? I guess that makes Itagaki a Ninja Dog in games development. :)

Itagaki actually said ...

Can you think of any other games that are running at 60 fps? Every Party? (laughs)

Is he mocking other xbox360 developers?

Fighters are less dynamic than shooters like Gears of War and Chrome Hounds no? Not as hard technically.
 
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