Has Nvidia said we are sorry?

Discussion in 'Graphics and Semiconductor Industry' started by dream caster, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. 2senile

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    I don't expect there to ever be an apology. It would be an admission & might make some people consider legal action against nV.

    I also didn't expect anybody to take the thread seriously as the subject has been talked to death. :lol:
     
  2. _xxx_

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    I didn't expect anyone to even read this thread, since it's pretty pointless :wink:
     
  3. jb

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    No lets just try to place nicer together...

    And don't go and find me one of those group hug smiles either :)
     
  4. digitalwanderer

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    For them to say they are sorry they would first have to stop doing whats wrong ....
     
  6. 2senile

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    These sort of posts provide my free entertainment. So long as B3D doesn't allow too many of them I don't mind. :wink: :lol:

    I'll admit it got out of hand a little while ago as the graphics section seemed to be filled with partisan posts with absolutely no informative content.

     
  7. _xxx_

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    I wasn't joking. Why should a multinational company ever say they're sorry for whatever blah? It's not like it's a really important issue, noone died, noone broke his leg. Know what I mean?
     
  8. Arun

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    Someone might have bought a 5800U instead of a 9500Pro, wasting over $200. Maybe that guy got sick a few weeks later, and lacked just $200 to pay for the required medical care, and maybe he died because of that!
    Or maybe not :)

    Uttar
     
  9. Unit01

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    Or maybe someone bought a 5800U dropped it on their foot and broke it and then lacked the money for medical care and is now crippled :p
     
  10. nVidia

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    We are really, really sorry for any inconvenience or trouble our product may have ever caused you. Sorry.

    We will NEVER let you down again. Hand on heart.

    Yours sincerely,
    nVidia employees (all of us)
     
  11. martrox

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    And....IF you believe that I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you! :roll:

    And.....IF you believe that was posted by anyone that has any real connection to nVidia....... well.... guess you believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and Fairy Godmothers...... :wink:
     
  12. _xxx_

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    Hey, don't you say anything against my Santa!!! He brings me very nice presents, always! :lol:
     
  13. Nick

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    Should have voted Kerry... :roll:
     
  14. Nyo_S23

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    Yes dreamcatcher t Nvidia said they were sorry by giving u pixel shaders 3.0 instead of 2.0 enjoy!!!!
     
  15. WaltC

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    Maybe it's a matter of explaining to your fans and stock holders why a competitor arose from relative obscurity into the 3d chip markets you were dominating to absolutely stomp on your head and forcibly take away a mountain of the business you had smugly counted on dominating in perpetuity? Just a thought...;)

    But I think nV40 is apology enough, don't you? I mean, nV40 is a direct and absolute repudiation of nV's nV3x production and marketing, isn't it? I'm relieved not to have to suffer through any more "DX9 is not the future of 3d but DX8.x is the cat's meow" marketing drivel, aren't you? That's apology enough, seems to me. nV went from a self-described "leader" in 3d to an abjectly humbled "follower" in the space of a couple of years, and so I certainly think that's apology enough. Could it be any more obvious that ATi has set the pace and tone of 3d for the last two years, even snagging the xBox from nV's cold, but not-quite-dead-yet fingers (and getting a deal with none of the weaknesses of nV's former arrangement to boot)...?

    Trying to resurrect worn, tired, and outdated concepts like 3dfx's SLI--in name only--is a gimmick not an advance (I'd have preferred if it had been Scan Line Interleaving.) Basically, the two nV apologies "I'd like to see" (reminds me of MAD Magazine) involve pawning off nV30/5/8 as "8-pixel-pipeline/pixels-per-clock" gpus merely because a competitor was actually selling such gpus while nV couldn't, and nV's habit of forever looking backwards and trying to reinvent the wheel concerning APIs and things like "SLI".

    IMO, nV40 is probably the most obvious and distinct apology and repudiation of its nV3x distortions and misstatements as we are likely to ever see...;) Seems pretty convincing to me...;)
     
  16. dream caster

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    I really didn't expect this thread to survive this far!

    Just felt the need to explore if there was a human relationship reason to look back upon Nvidia.
     
  17. London Geezer

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    I think this thread sums up pretty well that some people should just get over some things and not take things personal.
    Why would i care if Nvidia said "sorry"... It's not like they're my friends, i have no personal attachment to them or any other company.

    They make a product, if it's good, i buy it, if it's not, i buy the competition.

    No need for sentimentalism and "sorry's".
     
  18. dream caster

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    I feel that trying to cheat on me may not be just completely ignored.
    I did not expect from Nvidia any more than being decent, or at least declaring their wish to be so.
     
  19. Smurfie

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    Everyone has different standards when it comes to calling cheats. I personally know people who don't even care about what Nvidia did with the Nv30, yet I also personally know people who call ATI cheaters for their filtering techniques.

    Just vote with your wallet when a company's action makes you happy or unhappy. Calling for what you wanted, to me, is a call for attention, or narcissism.
     
  20. London Geezer

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    They're a "company". It's business, Nvidia is not a person. They said they fucked up the NV3x line and that's more than enough from a company, which has now taken the time to make their products better.
    Their way to "say sorry" or to value the customers is giving us the GF6 line, which is a hell of a good product.
    Customers should not and usually do not "sulk" at a company. If their product is good, like the GF6 line is, they forget about what Nv or anyone else did 2 bloody years ago, and so should you. Or just buy ATI and get on with it...
     
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