Google is making a videogame console.

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This just in:

http://kotaku.com/report-google-is-making-a-video-game-console-603208145

And it'll use Android.
Apparently, Google's entry in the console business comes from chasing Apple, because the company believes that future iterations of AppleTV will become gaming oriented.

So we're to expect not one, but two more players in the console business: a "Nexus" console and a gaming-capable AppleTV.


EDIT: if someone has a Wall Street Journal subscription and is willing to dig the original article to get more info to us, here's the original story:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689204578571992848684764.html
 
It would be interesting if they tried to disrupt the console business by trying to change the $60 games model.

They would probably do that with ads to the nth degree and even more intrusive data collection than even Kinect 2.

But if their goal is to play mobile games on your TV with controllers, hmm, that's kind of boring.
 
But if their goal is to play mobile games on your TV with controllers, hmm, that's kind of boring.

Hmm, I just picked up Raiden legacy on my GS3 for 1.99. It's 4 Raiden games.

They all look and play fricken beautiful, except touch controls=garbage.

I was so impressed, though.

I'm a little receptive to Ouya/Android consoles.

Maybe cause I miss 2D SNES style gaming...

 
If its a game box that happens to do media, it will fail (lack of outreach).
If its a media player that happens to play games, it should be interesting.

Question really is if Google is going to support it like a tier 1 project (Android and Chrome) or just treat it like Google TV and just hope good things happen. Simply put, if Google really wanted Google TV to succeed, they would have killed their partner effort and just done it themselves.
 
This just in:

http://kotaku.com/report-google-is-making-a-video-game-console-603208145

And it'll use Android.
Apparently, Google's entry in the console business comes from chasing Apple, because the company believes that future iterations of AppleTV will become gaming oriented.

So we're to expect not one, but two more players in the console business: a "Nexus" console and a gaming-capable AppleTV.


EDIT: if someone has a Wall Street Journal subscription and is willing to dig the original article to get more info to us, here's the original story:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689204578571992848684764.html

iOS7 supports game controllers. iOS can stream display over wifi to apple tv.

I would be very surprised if Apple wasn't making a play for game consoles.
 
Why? Is it all android anyway?

Its not google's android. Google TV has been operating for quite some time and Google could of sold a controller and marketed it as a TV and gaming device long before Ouya showed up.

Its seem like the major reason Google wants to present a console is because of devices like Ouya. You are right its all Android, which means that porting from Ouya to Google won't a difficult endeavor. Im not fond of a small company doing alot of the legwork and then having someone like Google come in and ursurped their hard work. Whats the point of using Android as a open OS if success provides an opportunity for Google to come in and invade your space with little effort.

I don't want Android and Google to become the tech version of Silver Surfer and Galactus.
 
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There's no smoke without fire. I still don't buy the rumour, and if they make a console I just hope it is a portable one, I don't fancy a typical console from Google, I don't know... it's not my thing. I don't see what they can offer to the console market.

I mean, why buy another Android machine if you already own a tablet which does the same thing?
 
AFAIK google are making a console, I believe that RJ Mical is heading the new games group. As far as I know the effort predates Ouja even being a kick starter.
I would assume it's Android based, the real question is are they targeting casual games or something closer to modern AAA titles?
 
There's no smoke without fire. I still don't buy the rumour, and if they make a console I just hope it is a portable one, I don't fancy a typical console from Google, I don't know... it's not my thing. I don't see what they can offer to the console market.

I mean, why buy another Android machine if you already own a tablet which does the same thing?

Why do you assume this Nexus console will be using the same low-power hardware as a tablet?

Android runs on x86. As far as we know, it could even be a 4GHz Haswell with a Geforce Titan. Unlikely, but possible nonetheless.
 
I just can't see major players caring about it until Android can fix it's image of being a piracy platform, unless all they intend to have on it are free to play or ad based games.
 
Who is Mical?

Anyways, for an Android console to be successful, besides the techs, there has to be marketing muscle and the ability to cut deals for games support.

No startup is going to be able to accomplish that.

Even if the startup did the technical legwork, which is doubtful, because Google could do a lot more, you still need financial clout to make the product a reality on the business side -- distribution, manufacturing, marketing, deals for games, etc. Google would be doing all the latter to give the product a chance to be successful.
 
Why do you assume this Nexus console will be using the same low-power hardware as a tablet?

Android runs on x86. As far as we know, it could even be a 4GHz Haswell with a Geforce Titan. Unlikely, but possible nonetheless.
But a console like that wouldn't be a console but a performance monster.

Consoles aren't exactly cheap and a Google's console could be an absolute bust if you take into account other companies have spent years honing their technology and needed a lot of people with excellent skills to get there -i.e. PlayStation 4 compared to previous generations of PS-.

Even so, people are still cautious, see what happened to the Xbox and the DRM stuff. Google could make a *good* console, maybe... But I think they'd make something outrageous and heinous. They could stick with the watches tho.
 
Hmm, so has he done anything more recent in the games industry?

Or had any role in a successful product?

:D
 
Hey I love my Lynx! Every now and then I stumble across it in the attic.

Be interesting to see where this goes, can't see it as a threat to the top two.
 
Hmm, so has he done anything more recent in the games industry?

Or had any role in a successful product?

:D

He is one of two people usually credited with the Amiga OS.
Up until a couple of years ago he was at Sony.
 
Whats the point of using Android as a open OS if success provides an opportunity for Google to come in and invade your space with little effort.
Firstly I'm not sure what you consider the leg-work done by Ouya is that Google are potential usurping. It's a Tegra 3 box with TV out; a variation on a common theme for Android.

Secondly, Ouya's store is not the Google store, so none of your existing Google purchases will run on Ouya, and none of your Ouya purchases will run on your phone or tablet. That makes Ouya decidedly rubbish as an Android device! There's definitely room for a true Android console (as much as there's room for any Android console).

There's no smoke without fire.
Yes there is. Chemical smoke. The presence of smoke does not indicate the presence of combustion. In Internet terms, anyone can release a smokebomb (Pastebin rumour) and have people who believe "there's no smoke without fire" start to believe in a hollow assemblage of words.
 
I'm not sure Google (or Apple) will go head to head with next-gen consoles, neither that if they were to have proper consoles it would be a significant threat to the "PS180" (sorry I had to find something as convenient as ps360), though it could throw quite a wrench at MSFT and Sony and have a destabilizing effect on the whole market.
I can see none going with physical media for example, and I can see them go with incremental updates of their hardware. S if not a massive threat it could shorten the lifespam of the PS180.

For games, I think that they would have a lot of what you find on iOS and Android now, with an increase in quality, a sort high quality revival of what could qualify as retro gaming.
I could also see some port of the big(gest) multi-platform games, imo I would be surprised if any of the big publishers pass on porting big games on an Apple or Google if they were to deliver good enough hardware (/porting is not a pain).

To me Google is more threatening than Apple, with Android and services offered through the cloud being a sane substitute to Windows for the casual user, with usually pretty open policies and what they do with phone and tablet, I could see Google showing the path with a sort of reference platform as the Nexus line is and then having the integrators to compete. Shortly that means having multiple vendors competing on prices, perfs, etc. A sort of new "PC" markets.
It also mean that they could get Chinese manufacturers and vertically integrated companies as Samsung to enter the show, and god know how low they could the price.

I don't think that Google would not need to set minimal requirements as any under performing platform, first would look bad in a competitive market and 2 would just be a new Google Tv type of device, we know how much success those devices have. Shortly for the segment to exist (and google getting share of the software sales and integrators making some money on hardware) the device would have to be compliant with the market it tries to address, which is gaming you may not need PS180 level of perfs still you need perfs.

I think they will aim for something cheap, really cheap, max 149$ so they are an attractive option for the casual and kids (wii style) /impulse buy.
I also think that there won't be any pay-wall to play online or anything, and I see that as a competitive advantage, if they can get a couples of big FPS titles to run at sane settings on their hardware.
I think Google might be carefully looking at what MSFT is doing with the cloud, and mostly match it (for free though). Actually I think they will also use to relieve the requirement on storage and RAM for games: namely FMV and music will be streamed through their youtube infrastructure.
They won't charge the publishers for the use of their cloud at all, I could see them introduce ads "TV style" every 15-30 minutes (though short break like one spot), I would expect those ads break to be synchronized, aka say you play multi-players games all the players are on alt at the same time (other approach would be troublesome).
Then there is the weight of the environment and at this point I would dare to say that Android is getting more relevant than Windows. There a shit load of Android devices out there allowing them to plan for local MP games of a scale only Apple could match.
The device will be always on and synchronize with your calendar for example parents could set on their (google) calendar when kids can play, or having the device to turn on TV.
I think that they need good voice recognition.
THe device could play multiple instances (linked to different accounts) of casual/not demanding games => MP focus. You could have four play on the main screen (split screen or not, depending on the games) and quite a few other in the same room playing on their phones or tablets /massive local MP with the option for more player "in da cloud".
Universal pad support across Android devices.

For the hardware imo you don't need much to qualify as "next geny", especially if Sony move toward GDDR5 and AMD possibly toward GDDR5M makes that type of memory a bit less "boutique".
There won't be a HDD, though a HDD slot would be welcome (if Google doesn't include it other vendor could).
32MB of Flash should be fine backed by a couple of SD card readers.
The goal would be to run the big titles, though in lesser setting, lesser textures, lesser sounds, etc => less storage require. It should lower the requirement on RAM nicely. It should also significantly lower requirement for the GPU (playing with resolution).
Though I think they need a competitive CPU and GPGPU capabilities.
The system would not be bond to a specific ISA, one could use MIPS, ARM or X86 cpus.
Nvidia, AMD, PowerVR, should have compliant solutions.
I'm not sure about what would be enough as far as RAM is concerned, I think that GDDR5 is almost madatory but the amount? 2GB could do if the OS clears a lot of memory while playing high profile games for the bulk of the production it won't an issue. More obviously would be great.
With regard to processing power and power budget, I would think the reference platform from Google would aim low. For the processing power I would think for the platform as a whole somewhere in between 0.5 TFLOPS and 1TFLOPS, closer to the former than to the later.
Overall it could be sort of super WiiU, backed by the cloud to cover (partially) some of its lacking (storage and RAM), a PS4 one a strenuous diet.
It would be tiny, think that but with only 2 memory chips (if 8Gb GDDR5 memory are really coming) so most likely cheap.
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Overall really casual oriented and also toward kids of the touch generation but attractive enough (Google is BIG, Android too) for the editors to consider porting their big titles. The attractive to "casual" core gamer would be price and no fee for mp. I think Google would price the couples big AAA it gets competitively and offer great deal in the same manner as Steam.
The price would make the console viable on quite some markets (emergent).
The system would not need much more than a couples of big games a year (at first at least).

It would try to get where Nintendo would not with the WiiU, not only because of underwhelming hardware but because Nintendo simply is not google.

Overall I'm not too surprised about that rumors, I'm not sure it will happen either but looking at Google size, the fact that soon next geny experience should be achievable for a sane price, it would actually weird if Google (the same applies to Apple) is not regularly evaluating their option to enter this field.
 
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