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ANova said:
There definatly will be a 7800Ultra. There a few facts underlining that.
1) right now they don't have an Ultra tag in their lineup. This is a very good sign. There was no need to change the name to GTX because Ultra and GT were already famous.
2) The 7800GTX has a relativly flat cooler and overclocks pretty well. This is another big sign that an Ultra is coming. With a dual slot cooling sollution 500HZ or more are possible.
3) and that's the biggest sign for me at least is that the 7800GT is rumuroed to have 20pipes only. Inno3D had their specs up for a moment for the 7800GT. If their GT is a 20pipe part only, then i strongly believe that once ATI hits shelves with its R520 the GF7800GTX will become the "real" GF7800GT in comparison to last generation and a GF7800Ultra will appear. 99% for sure. Only reason that won't happen is if ATI faces huge problems getting their part out so that Nvidia's 9nm shrink is ready to go.
ANova said:
Michael Hara suggested when asked by B3D quite some time before the G70 release, that there will be a slightly faster version of NV40 in spring 2005 and that there will be another faster version on 90nm around fall.
Spring turned out to be summer and I'd rather assume that fall became winter. A higher clocked Gxx @90nm single slot design makes way more sense and is IMO NVIDIA's planned answer to R580.
That "Ultra" stuff comes from the INQ if my memory shouldn't betray me, as of course the 6/8 quad stuff about the R5xx's and finally the suggested now 800MHz@110nm.
First paragraph comes from an NVIDIA official and half of it turned out to be true IMO until now; I'd rather believe the second half of that story before I believe any nonsense a tabloid site munches on....
The R580 won't be coming until early 2006 and my gut tells me that the 90nm version of the G70 will be around the same timeframe, ie. December/January. If the R520 manages to make it to the market in any significant quantities and outperforms the GTX nvidia will release a dual slot Ultra at around 500+ MHz and a little faster on the ram (or slightly slower if they decide to go the 512 MB route). Mark my words.
Typo, yes that's it.
Ailuros said:nAo said:800 Mhz?!
Not that 800MHz with 6 quads at 90nm would be actually possible (or let's say affordable)....what's even worse is the 110nm suggestion. Another good kneesplapper from INQ.
Took the words out of my mouth! A new asic to do this, and still at 110nm? I don't use this one much, but this time
Note it does suggest NV was behind getting the VR Zone article nicked, which is consistent with the "by request" noted above. But even that one said 90nm!
The inquirer really has gone beyond all points of credibility lately. I swear they are going to eat so much crow in the next 3 months. Unfortunately. They may get a guess right 1 week before launch then everyone will herald how they were "Right". *Sigh*geo said:Ailuros said:nAo said:800 Mhz?!
Not that 800MHz with 6 quads at 90nm would be actually possible (or let's say affordable)....what's even worse is the 110nm suggestion. Another good kneesplapper from INQ.
Took the words out of my mouth! A new asic to do this, and still at 110nm? I don't use this one much, but this time
no-X said:
That would be congruent with information I've seen - G71 being an NV43 replacement, with a quoted "2x" performance increase. Given the different tape-out to production schedules that it had in relation to G70 it would also suggest that these are 90nm.
Now I'm really confused, unless "congruent" doesn't mean what I've always thot it did. Are you agreeing or disagreeing, Wavey?
What kind of bandwidth are they going to need to feed an 8 quad 800mhz beastie!
Edit: Never mind. RTFC, geo.
EditII: NV will probably change their code name structure every year now, just for the sheer joy of watching us chase our tails.
What kind of bandwidth are they going to need to feed an 8 quad 800mhz beastie!
Edit: Never mind. RTFC, geo.
EditII: NV will probably change their code name structure every year now, just for the sheer joy of watching us chase our tails.
In an ideal world, L'Inq would implement a non-subscription-based comments system so that brief feeback could be posted to each article to hopefully smooth out some of the more glaring inaccuracies or at least balance them with more considered "opinion" and/or assemblage of factoids.geo said:CJ said:I liked this typo the most:
I doubt that's a typo, actually --more like typical Inq fun with words.
Regarding nVIDIA's seemingly smooth 90nm ramp for various products, ATI have got be disappointed with their failure to yet exploit their lead (at least so far as taking the risk and early plunge with 90nm) on the process with actual product?
Cheers,
BrynS
Well perhaps "...failure to yet exploit..." places too hard an edge on the view -- I was tossing and turning between failure and inability and the more pessimistic outlook won though -- I'll blame it on the heat us Brits have had to endure during the past week.geo said:
I agree though that all the public indications suggest R5xx mid & low range is on track, but as Orton admitted in the call, R520 has had some delays and if it was released as originally scheduled it would have given ATI a significant lead-time advantage over nVIDIA on a newer process, allowing ATI to place pricing pressure (assuming good yields @90nm) on nVIDIA, still tied to a larger process, while producing (more) profitable ASIC's than nV. That has to be disappointing ("regretable"?) for ATI? I'm still hopeful for R520 and really looking forward to the whole range, especially RV530 or similar.
Cheers,
BrynS
Ailuros said:
ROFL my stomach aches ...hahahaha
Quote by "Shamino" (the one who achieved 810Mhz core with the G70)
Sounds like every joe user should be able to get to 800 Mhz then.
Wasn't there already an X850XT with a core clock of around 900Mhz? If I remember correctly. So how is this going to make ATI tremble again?
Ah, didn't the Inq already say the R520 is a 32 pipe card? Why make special note that R580 is the 32 piped card?
Ya, if you feel the need to jump on here and defend ATI's honor because of an article by the Inq, then you must subscribe to tabloids and believe that Brad Pitt is dating the alien sister of Angelina Jolie.
R520 will be fast, it's just taking a while due to the process shrink. There will be no 800 mhz high-end part from Nvidia this year. I don't usually make statements about the 3dworld and proclaim them as facts very often, but, I can assure you that what I just said above is undoubtedly the truth. (and I am not talking about Brad Pitt and the alien part.)
R520 will be fast, it's just taking a while due to the process shrink. There will be no 800 mhz high-end part from Nvidia this year. I don't usually make statements about the 3dworld and proclaim them as facts very often, but, I can assure you that what I just said above is undoubtedly the truth. (and I am not talking about Brad Pitt and the alien part.)
ChrisRay said:The inquirer really has gone beyond all points of credibility lately. I swear they are going to eat so much crow in the next 3 months. Unfortunately. They may get a guess right 1 week before launch then everyone will herald how they were "Right". *Sigh*geo said:Ailuros said:nAo said:800 Mhz?!
Not that 800MHz with 6 quads at 90nm would be actually possible (or let's say affordable)....what's even worse is the 110nm suggestion. Another good kneesplapper from INQ.
Took the words out of my mouth! A new asic to do this, and still at 110nm? I don't use this one much, but this time
I doubt this is all due guesses, rather orchestrated misguidance. What's worst is that it actually works....
