Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
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Actually quite a lot of teams applied, but there was only one team spot available, and ProDrive won it from the FIA.
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Actually quite a lot of teams applied, but there was only one team spot available, and ProDrive won it from the FIA.
I think Briatore is a cool cat 
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Rumour has it that Prodrive will be getting Pedro de La Rosa and perhaps Piquet for next year which is a good team between experience and new rookie driver who shows promise.
I drive past Prodrive on the M40 sometimes at Banbury and it is a fairly small facility. I believe they have planning permission for conversion of an airfield somewhere in the Midlands though. They might not even need this as Dave Richards is involved with Aston Martin now and they have access to Gaydon and it's track.
I think they will put up a good show, another good B team.
I drive past Prodrive on the M40 sometimes at Banbury and it is a fairly small facility. I believe they have planning permission for conversion of an airfield somewhere in the Midlands though. They might not even need this as Dave Richards is involved with Aston Martin now and they have access to Gaydon and it's track.
I think they will put up a good show, another good B team.
chavvdarrr
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Because FIA makes everything possible to make him win.
Just in Fuji - penalty for Kubica because he hit Hamilton (how dare he!)
No penalty for Vettel for hitting Alonso - how was that different?
Investigations for some "dangerous maneuvers running after safety car" - but no penalty for Hamilton, for his continious sudden slow-downs - but no pemalty. At one time it was obvious that he tries to catch Alonso unprepared so he passes him for a moment and so be punished for "ourunning(sp?) under yellow flag"
Ah, let me reiterate the other strange decisions FIA made in previous starts:
- returning ONLY Hamilton - Nurburgring. There were at least 3 other cars in same situation and for example RSc's engine was working
- penalising only Alonso, when in fact, Hamilton was the one who started the quarrel - Hungaroring
- Hamilton outruns Massa cutting the shikane - no penalty, though other pilots were penalised for exactly the same.
Every single of these incidents is acceptable alone. But somehow, every problem involving Hamilton is resolved in his favour.
Maybe I'm prejudiced, maybe not. Maybe I too much dislike any "product" thats being hevily PR-d and tend to see plots everywhere. But after all - there were/are big scandals with German football referees' and bets, scandals with bets in male tennis, I won't even mention the joke called professional boxing... what makes you believe that F1 is 100% fair and clean?
Yep, I even think its possible that there was bargain between FIA and McLaren:
- you guarantee pilots championship to the one we choose, we won't protest the penalty.
One thing is 100% certain - not any one in this forum will ever know the truth
Peace.
Hamilton refused to slow down and let Alonso past the fia cant penalise him for that, they can how ever penalise blocking another driver in the pit lane
if you are talking about monza Hamilton cut the chicane because massa hit him
Certainly not you at any rate.One thing is 100% certain - not any one in this forum will ever know the truth
I have not read so much crap all in one post before, well done.
chavvdarrr
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heh, i just have to wonder what nationality are all you people who believe that Hamilton is the greatest F1 driver ever?
From reading 3 forums with different native languages, where F1 is discussed, only here pro-Hamilton party is relatively big.
"Different people, different tastes", said the cat and licked her ass.
From reading 3 forums with different native languages, where F1 is discussed, only here pro-Hamilton party is relatively big.
"Different people, different tastes", said the cat and licked her ass.
What? He's not the greatest ever, but you can't be anything but impressed at him doing so well in his rookie year. Michael Schumacher didn't do as well and same with Ayrton Senna, and I would say they were among the very best drivers ever in F1.
I'm still pro Alonso FWIW.
Btw, I'm Norwegian with some Finnish blood in my veins so I kinda have to root for Kimi and Heikki too.
I'm still pro Alonso FWIW.
Btw, I'm Norwegian with some Finnish blood in my veins so I kinda have to root for Kimi and Heikki too.
tongue_of_colicab
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But MS en Senna didnt start their carreers in the fastest car on the grid. Both, certainly MS, helped their team to build a race winning car alot. Its a fact Hamilton is very fast when he has a fast car, but nobody knows what he'll do if he's not in a fast car (like Alonso who started out at minardi). Can he give enough feedback to a team to improve the car? at the moment I dont think so given the rumors that he basically copies Alonso's setup for every race.
The setup's are ususally derived from what they find in testing - of which he is a critical element of.
Many other drivers started out in fast cars and finished nowhere in relation to their more experienced team-mates.
Hamilton has beaten, fair and square, the two time world champion.
Let's say Hamilton joined Ferrari and beat Schumacher fair and square (although that wouldn't have happened as Schumacher wouldn't have allowed him to, but seeing as we seem to have descended into the fantasy zone why not) would it make him any less a driver?
Yes, he's lucky to be in one of the fastest cars in the grid, but he has also finished on the podium in almost every race even when the car wasn't the best on the grid.
For an indication to the guys talent you only need to look at the last race, being a new track everyone was pretty much even, and Hamilton was quicker throughout the weekend than Alonso.
Alonso obviously realises that next year Hamilton will know all the tracks as well as he does, which is why he's running away with his tail between his legs back to Renault.
It was a blindsided lunge from nowhere, in difficult conditions. Drivers have been penalised before for this (including Schumacher).
Did we see the conditions?
Only a Spanish paper claimed that there was any talk of Hamilton being investigated, and other reports state that these were denied in the paddock. Slowing the pack up is common practice in a restart, as is warming the brakes. In Vettel's case he noted that he saw Hamilton warming his brakes, he just hadn't noticed where Webber was.
As we've discuessed in this thread, this is withing the rules and not without precident (Schumacher). If you have time time lift an undamaged car back on to the track the question was why wouldn't you want the championship leader in the race, as opposed to some of the others that are going to have zero impact on the championship?- returning ONLY Hamilton - Nurburgring. There were at least 3 other cars in same situation and for example RSc's engine was working
The other points have already been addressed.
Its interesting to see where he's won actually. Some of his biggest successes, so far, have been on tracks that he's never seen before. I'm wondering if his knowledge of the GP2 braking points on the European circuits are actually a bit detrimental to him.
It was grey zone on the rules already, they were clarified right after that race that the marshals can push cars to track, but not lift
