first r420 review leak

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  1. DerekBaker

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    An extreme pipeline?

    [​IMG]


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  2. Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

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    AFAICR, wasn't NV40's 14K number done in 800x600?
     
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    Trilinear TMUs would inrease the transistor budget that much?


    It was 16*0 vs 16*0 for R3xx vs NV3x too. Difference being that while NV had higher clockspeeds in the former generation, tables have reversed.

    Clock for clock I saw R3xx and NV3x running neck to neck in stencil fillrate bound tests.

    NVIDIA probably lost the trump card but not due to the amount of Z/stencil units, but the lower clockspeed, hence the math. I can see a ~30% advantage in pure stencil fill-rates what do you see? ;)
     
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    It was.
     
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    It wasn't, it was an OC 6800U on a OC PIV.
     
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    Depends. S3 showed us that it doesn't have to (quite some time ago too), but ATi thought otherwise last time, sooo... we'll see.


    Weird, somehow I had a misconception of 8*0 for R3x0... don't ask. :wink:

    Ah, now I understand. I though the second line somehow referred to the X800Pro.Frequency of errors reaching critical limits... must...have...more...coffee...


    Evildeus : got proof?
     
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    Coincedentally it also gets 14k at 800x600 anyways, according to macci
     
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    Ok I just received an indirect warning considering that specific slide. Can anyone possibly clarify the situation about the amount of stencil ops per clock without getting into trouble? *cough*
     
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    Listen to the presentation? What's yours?
     
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    I have to say, it seems to me that the X800XT's GL drivers are holding it back a bit. In D3D Shader apps (Far Cry), the X800XT pulls away pretty dramatically. GL is another story.

    So now we know why there is a GL re-write under way.

    /Waits patiently for B3D's synthetic shader benchmarks...
     
    #570 Joe DeFuria, May 4, 2004
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    To all idiots editing / deleting and messing up Bjorn3D articles: grow the f*ck up.
    To all idiots caching and exchanging our NDA'ed material: grow the f*ck up.
    To all idiots posting links to our NDA'ed material on different websites: grow the f*ck up.

    Sorry for the OT but some of you need to grow the f*ck up, literally :roll:
     
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    Yup, ATI knows their GL drivers need to freshen up ;)
     
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    Yes really ashamed to wake up this morning and see all theses links here :(
     
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    So basically I'll have to take your word for it. Got no probs with that, so far.
     
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    Agree with 1. But for the other two, this is the internet: when it's out, it's out.


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    I agree don't delete or edit there shit.....but man it's your own guys fault people have this info now and its spreading all over the net...

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    Re: 3DM03 comparisons
    (Test system: P4 3.4GHz, i865, 1GB PC3200)

    [​IMG]

    I found GT4 results interesting:
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    Performance in line with fillrate...
     
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    Well, it's not my word it's the words of the speaker. Now why should i take your word, because it's yours isn't it?
     
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    Moreover the 6800U seems to be limited in VS performance against the X800.
     
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    In line with clockspeed differential.
     
    #580 stevem, May 4, 2004
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