FFIII day one..

btw, the official MediaCreate's charts for August 21 to 27

titles:

Final Fantasy III - 503,051 (NEW)
NEW Super Mario Bros. - 65,556 (2,901,264)
Rune Factory - 42,210 (NEW)
Brain Age 2 - 41,784 (3,073,195)
Cooking Navi - 37,326 (384,045)
Tamagotchi 2 - 30,504 (430,934)
Mario Basketball 3-on-3 - 30,355 (233,762)
Animal Crossing Wild World - 30,023 (3,149,130)
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - 22,866 (2,736,150)
English Training - 17,465 (1,401,669)


and the consoles for completeness:

Nintendo DS Lite - 163,274 (3,967,887)
PlayStation Portable - 29,945 (3,911,800)
PlayStation 2 - 21,829 (19,662,064)
Game Boy Advance SP - 2,719 (5,881,627)
Game Boy Micro - 1,819 (533,249)
Xbox 360 - 1,197 (139,243)
GameCube - 837 (4,156,706)
Nintendo DS - 410 (6,577,160)
Game Boy Advance - 14 (8,822,654)
Xbox - 12 (475,522)

So the DS is already half of PS2's LTD in just under 2 years!?? :oops:

All DS games in the top 10?







:LOL:

Nice quotes! :LOL:
 
So the DS is already half of PS2's LTD in just under 2 years!?? :oops:

Last week's sales should also be very impressive. When the new jet-black coloured DSLite was released there were long lines at the shops. Some of them were sold out the first day.
 
do they create houses with it? DS is selling like mofo crazy

i understand why nintendo isnt that much focused on the home console.. its too risky while they have a permission to print money with the DS and gameboy devices (minus the micro, thats clearly a flop i think..)
 
So the DS is already half of PS2's LTD in just under 2 years!?? :oops:
LTD?

In any case, I find it fascinating (and not really unexpected) that the Lite's sold roughly 50% of the original DS total sales since launch in a mere 6 months. That's pretty incredible. :)

Nice quotes! :LOL:
Well, give the guy some credit... What's he SUPPOSED to say? :D It's his job to dis his competitors.
 
do they create houses with it? DS is selling like mofo crazy

i understand why nintendo isnt that much focused on the home console.. its too risky while they have a permission to print money with the DS and gameboy devices (minus the micro, thats clearly a flop i think..)

Some articles with pics 1, 2, 3
 
All DS games in the top 10?

Two quotes are actually the same ...

Anyway, the quotes aren't necessarily wrong yet - the DS hasn't been out that long, and maybe next year everyone will be playing MGS: Portable Ops, FFVII: Crisis Core and so on.

However, I think Phil (and others) have underestimated that really the console gaming public isn't very spoilt in terms of graphics and such - the DS for them is already a big step up, and they are having a blast with the stylus and the great games created for them.

This combined with people knowing the Gameboy as being 'the' handheld for over a decade, means that the DS is doing extraordinarily well. But again, we have to remember, that in the US and Europe, the difference isn't nearly as big as it is in Japan.

The PSP really has to get that online service going. If they can make cheap (and even free) downloadable games and applications available like for download, it'll be a great boost for the PSP.

By the way, I had two kids over this weekend and fed them Daxter and Loco Roco, and the 11 year old girl was crazy about Daxter and already was counting her money to see whether she could buy it, and the 5 year old loved Loco Roco, but then she loved my Dancing Stage (DDR) game on PS2 even more - probably because I also have a matching dancemat. ;)
 
Two quotes are actually the same ...

Anyway, the quotes aren't necessarily wrong yet - the DS hasn't been out that long, and maybe next year everyone will be playing MGS: Portable Ops, FFVII: Crisis Core and so on.

Dude, the DS has been out for two years. Agreed, the numbers have only been this extreme since the release of the DS Lite, but considering that there usually is a summer slow-down (which was not to be seen for the DS), and that titles like Pokemon are still coming, I can easily see the DS performing like it is now at least until the Christmas holidays. And once you have an installed base like that, there is no stopping of the positive feedback loop.

There are some reasonable well researched numbers at
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117497
and it indeed seems that the selling rate is increasing in Europe and US territories. I guess in Japan it's permanently sold-out, so it's hard to increase its selling rate.

By the way, I had two kids over this weekend and fed them Daxter and Loco Roco, and the 11 year old girl was crazy about Daxter and already was counting her money to see whether she could buy it, and the 5 year old loved Loco Roco, but then she loved my Dancing Stage (DDR) game on PS2 even more - probably because I also have a matching dancemat. ;)

Loco Roco is a game I'd love to try... It really looks like a very unique gaming experience. Unfortunately, I don't own a PSP or DS right now...
I have to agree with your kids: DDR totally rocks! :D
 
do as I did, buy a nice 2nd hand psp . there are lots of cheap used psp games everywhere. (bought my psp for 85 including one game, and that game i already sold so basicly i paid 75euro for it, coupled with a 2Gb duo highspeed stick i'm set :devilish: )
 
Dude, the DS has been out for two years. Agreed, the numbers have only been this extreme since the release of the DS Lite, but considering that there usually is a summer slow-down (which was not to be seen for the DS)

Summer slow-downs do not hold for handhelds, for obvious reasons (think kids on the back-seat of your car). Even my 26 year old sister bought a DS Lite for the summer holidays for this reason. Ironically, most of the good games were sold out.

And once you have an installed base like that, there is no stopping of the positive feedback loop.

You definitely have a point there. And there will always be the price awareness thing. But at the same time, with handheld prices, people may more easily buy multiple systems.

Anyway, I just said it was a possibility. I also said that I think that Phil c.s. underestimated how many people have much lower requirements for the technology behind handheld devices for games. People like Sudoku, for instance, which needs nothing more hi-tech then some pre-printed paper and a pencil.

and it indeed seems that the selling rate is increasing in Europe and US territories.

Yes, obviously as the DS Lite has just hit there. That doesn't necessarily mean it won't get old here by next year, though.

But, and I've said this tonnes of times now, I really feel that the handheld market is large enough for 2 handhelds. The PSP is definitely aimed at a more mature audience, though that doesn't mean that the DS won't appeal to older and the PSP won't appeal to younger generations. The mother of the two kids I had over was very interested with the possibility of also being able to watch movies on the PSP, and was already considering getting a laptop for in the back of the car, stuff like that. You only need a few different UMDs or movies on memstick for this, as kids happily watch the same movie over and over in the car, I remember this from when I had some Bert and Ernie tapes - we only had three, and those we have listened to 10-50 times each ... (they were done by Dutch comedians actually, so no need to worry about if you know them in other languages ;) ).

DDR totally rocks! :D

I am surely one of the oldest guys who can beat most level 8 songs on the DDR Extreme 8th Edition Japanese import, so you don't have to tell me ... ;)

But nevertheless, for Japan, having MGS: Portable Ops and FFVII: Crisis Core, may have a long-term effect on the handheld war there, and it will certainly have an effect here. It just depends really on how well FFIII compares to FFVII, and if people care enough about having MGS and FF on a handheld.

It's not so much that I think the typical handheld audience will throw away their DS and buy a PSP instead. I just want to see how many FF / MGS fans will buy a PSP also, next to the DS / PS2 they already have.

I think it is very fair to say that the DS is safe for at least the next two years. But it is equally safe to say that the PSP doesn't look like it will go away any time soon either.
 

life-to-date - numbers for the lifetime of the product since launch.

In any case, I find it fascinating (and not really unexpected) that the Lite's sold roughly 50% of the original DS total sales since launch in a mere 6 months. That's pretty incredible. :)

oh, i'm pretty sure you do, being that little lite lover you are : ) but guess what, i constantly and singlehandedly keep adding more and more to the phat's sales numbers : )

Well, give the guy some credit... What's he SUPPOSED to say? :D It's his job to dis his competitors.

yeah, but still it's gotta be painful..
*must.. refain.. from critisizing sony suits' psp marketing policy!..*
 
Well, gameboys have always ALWAYS sold much better than any stationary console in japan, so this is not news. Nor is it really interesting or worthy of pointing out IMO, since portables and stationary consoles aren't exactly comparable.
 
Well, gameboys have always ALWAYS sold much better than any stationary console in japan, so this is not news. Nor is it really interesting or worthy of pointing out IMO, since portables and stationary consoles aren't exactly comparable.

Not true. The GBA only sold 15 million in Japan. The PS2 is widely popular in Japan. The DS doing this well is unprecedented for any videogame system in Japan.
 
Not true. The GBA only sold 15 million in Japan. The PS2 is widely popular in Japan. The DS doing this well is unprecedented for any videogame system in Japan.

Yep, I remember a press release saying it was the fastest selling video game system ever in the comparable time-frame.
 
First import review:
PGC: 6.5/10.0

PGC said:
The game is hard, and difficulty is something that tends to be rather rare in games these days. In the past sixteen years, developers have realized that being creamed by enemies within minutes of the first encounter is not fun. In this respect, Final Fantasy III is definitely old school. Most of the enemies you encounter will not be that difficult. There are a few annoying enemies that will replicate themselves if you cannot kill them in one hit, but this is more of an annoyance than a problem. The normal enemies are deceptively easy; the bosses are where the real problem lies. You can waltz through a dungeon, barely taking a hit, and then be slaughtered in two turns by the boss.

...
The soundtrack is exactly what you would expect from Final Fantasy. Nobuo Uematsu's soundtrack hits all the right notes, and the new versions of these old tunes are perfect. There is even one track where the original 8-bit sound has been kept, and it is without a doubt the best track in the game.

...
It is only the production values: graphics, music, and pedigree that make this game stand out. At its heart, Final Fantasy III is a dated and mediocre RPG that will only please the most die-hard Final Fantasy fans.
http://planetgamecube.com/reviewArt.cfm?artid=12119
 
after reading the review it seems mr. Winterhalter was trying to brute-force his way through the game - i guess he had a deadline for the review to meet ; )
 
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