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Here are some amazing videos via http://ve3d.ign.com/
The first is a video shot by a survivor of the Joplin tornado:
You can't see much, but the audio is pretty freaky. He came back and showed the aftermath:
Then we have a storm chaser going after the tornado in what looks like a normal car:
The woman in the car (presumably his wife) was *not* happy.
And here's a video taken from a helicopter flying over the devastation:
The first is a video shot by a survivor of the Joplin tornado:
And here's a video taken from a helicopter flying over the devastation:
Pretty crazy footage... What was that, an F4, F5?
I'm surprised building codes aren't stricter in tornado-prone areas of the US, basically every year we see footage of towns or even cities getting direct hits by large tornados, causing (sometimes large) loss of life and widespread destruction...
I'm surprised building codes aren't stricter in tornado-prone areas of the US, basically every year we see footage of towns or even cities getting direct hits by large tornados, causing (sometimes large) loss of life and widespread destruction...
How strict would the building codes need to be to stop a car from being fired through your house at 100 miles an hour? I can't imagine everyone wanting to live in underground concrete bunkers.
The loss of life was pretty small considering the amount of devastation to property in a fairly highly populated area.
It was an F5. I don't think any amount of building code improvements short of concrete bunkers would have prevented destruction from a tornado like this. Though it might be a good idea to mandate tornado-resistant basements in such tornado-prone areas. I don't know if this is currently the case or not.
Guy gets sucked through car's sunroof by tornado.
http://laist.com/2011/05/24/young_man_headed_to_local_universit.php
http://laist.com/2011/05/24/young_man_headed_to_local_universit.php
The amount of tornado prone areas in the US makes such things really expensive. We just happen to have a large area that is prone to twisters.
Not stop everything, that's impossible, but looking at the structure in the linked aftermath video we see it's basically just a tin shed-like structure. No solid elements at all from what I can see. Concrete walls at the mimimum for at least the ground floor would be a good place to start methinks. I know I sure as fuck would want it, if I lived where I could get hit by such tornados. I only got one life, I don't want my house of straws tipping over on me, and if I had a family I definitely would want it.
Yeah perhaps, but still, around 500 people seem to have been killed from what I read (although not sure if that figure's just from the Joplin tornado or a sum of several.) In any case, that's not peanuts, even considering it could have been a lot worse.
How does the number of such areas make any difference? It would just be a building code requirement, and thus wouldn't impact already-built homes.
The primary problem I could see is that it could force some low-income persons to go for trailers instead of houses, which would be even worse, so a reasonable compromise would be to only mandate storm cellars for homes above a certain square footage. And the code wouldn't necessarily require such storm cellars be large: they just have to hold the inhabitants of the house for a few hours at most.
Just way more than people are willing to spend. These people that just lost their homes would be even more penalized than they are now as they'd be forced to spend money out of pocket (insurance isn't going to pay for upgrades assuming they had or can even get it) to replace their destroyed home with a new reinforced one to prevent against damage from a tornado that will probably never hit them again in their lifetime.
...Which is why I said it could be made tax deductible, but way to go, reasoning in circles matey. Good luck with that.
...Which is why I said it could be made tax deductible, but way to go, reasoning in circles matey. Good luck with that.
Does tax deductible make it free? And if you think that's how it works, how would you expect the government to pay for this program. 10s of Millions of people live in tornado areas in the US. Any one of which might be hit by the next F5 tornado, or then again, they might not. There's a super volcano in the US that has historically gone off every 75,000 or so years, should they force people to build volcano proof homes as well? It's about due to blow... any day now....
MfA said:
I think RudeCurve's 10k might be a bit high, but that will vary depending on location, but it's closer than negligible.
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In order to have a reasonable survivability in an F4 or F5 (eF5/eF6) tornado, you basically have to start with 1 foot thick steel reinforced concrete and solid impact/bullet proof bolt in windows. And pre-fab slabs won't cut it, you need continuous interlocked stead reinforcement. You are pretty much at the point of building a bomb proof building. Including fully sealing vault like doors. Something like this would even be somewhat marginal: http://all-that-is-interesting.com/post/4956385434/the-first-zombie-proof-house
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