Educate Me: Plasma vs. LCD displays
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LCD panels continue to improve their handling of fast motion, and also backlighting to some degree. The newest "F" series of Samsung televisions are getting rave reviews of excellent black levels, no more halo'ing with bright objects on a black background, proper brightness during 3D display, and very good handling of fast motion.
Not perfect still, but far better than even two years ago.
Agreed. I have a 3-4 year old LCD for gaming that just sucks for movies (Panny Plasma for that), but the newest Samsungs are miles better. Another couple years...
I'm drooling over the OLED displays that Samsung claims to bring to production in the first half of this year. They've said that a few times though, so I'm not fully convinced it will happen this time either.
Still, OLED would give you ultimate "thinness", the possibility of zero bezel, perfectly equal saturation and backlight across the entire screen, excellent motion characteristics, and very light power requirements. Will probably be god-awful expensive, too
Still, OLED would give you ultimate "thinness", the possibility of zero bezel, perfectly equal saturation and backlight across the entire screen, excellent motion characteristics, and very light power requirements. Will probably be god-awful expensive, too
I'm drooling over the OLED displays that Samsung claims to bring to production in the first half of this year. They've said that a few times though, so I'm not fully convinced it will happen this time either.
Still, OLED would give you ultimate "thinness", the possibility of zero bezel, perfectly equal saturation and backlight across the entire screen, excellent motion characteristics, and very light power requirements. Will probably be god-awful expensive, too
I've been drooling over OLED since I first saw the simple ones in 2003 on industrial instruments (low res, 1-3 color). I'm hoping my next TV is OLED, but it will have to cost less than a decent used car for that
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I have a ~4 year-old, 50" Panasonic plasma and it's great for movies and gaming alike.
As for TV, it connects to the box through a VSX921 receiver that upscales everything to 1080p so don't really know if its internal upscaler is any good.
As for image burning, yes it happens (mainly the HUDs or the bar in the browsers) but it disappears within a minute or less. I've never noticed any image burning when going from a game to a movie.
From what I see in the market, 50" plasmas cost as much as 40" LCD TVs, so I'd say it depends on size and how long will it be used every day (because of the difference in power consumption).
If it's something for a very large family and the TV is turned for most of the day, or if it's a public display like a bar or a reception, then I'd say the plasmas are prohibitive.
In my case, me and my girlfriend live alone in a small apartment, we only turn the TV at night during/after dinner. Sometimes it's a couple of hours, sometimes we don't even turn it on for days. It would take several decades for the electricity bill to compensate the price difference between a 50" LCD and that 50" plasma.
(The biggest "spender" is me when I find a good third-person game that I prefer playing with the gamepad (because the plasma rules for 1080p games on a decent HTPC.. damn ). Right now I'm on Sleeping Dogs, f#$% yeah!)
As for TV, it connects to the box through a VSX921 receiver that upscales everything to 1080p so don't really know if its internal upscaler is any good.
As for image burning, yes it happens (mainly the HUDs or the bar in the browsers) but it disappears within a minute or less. I've never noticed any image burning when going from a game to a movie.
From what I see in the market, 50" plasmas cost as much as 40" LCD TVs, so I'd say it depends on size and how long will it be used every day (because of the difference in power consumption).
If it's something for a very large family and the TV is turned for most of the day, or if it's a public display like a bar or a reception, then I'd say the plasmas are prohibitive.
In my case, me and my girlfriend live alone in a small apartment, we only turn the TV at night during/after dinner. Sometimes it's a couple of hours, sometimes we don't even turn it on for days. It would take several decades for the electricity bill to compensate the price difference between a 50" LCD and that 50" plasma.
(The biggest "spender" is me when I find a good third-person game that I prefer playing with the gamepad (because the plasma rules for 1080p games on a decent HTPC.. damn ). Right now I'm on Sleeping Dogs, f#$% yeah!)
Why would you need that? TVs hang on your wall or sit on a stand, you don't fold 'em up and put them in your wallet...
Fold is exactly what they will do however if built too thin, just by handling it. When you're down to less than 30mm already, what's the big rush in going even thinner?
Would depend on manufacturing precision.
Not currently a characteristic of OLED. Especially not when showing bright imagery...
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Nonetheless, the perfect blacks on a large AMOLED TV screen would make me want to spend my money on it... Lots and lots of it.
Kill the sound reproduction even more so that any non-deaf buyers will have to get a soundbar too
Blazkowicz
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You could roll your TV to put it away, just like you roll up a projection screen.
That may be not relevant to many people but it may be interesting : TV set is no longer stationary and permanently present in your living room, as if it were the room's biggest point of interest or seeming purpose at any time.
That may be not relevant to many people but it may be interesting : TV set is no longer stationary and permanently present in your living room, as if it were the room's biggest point of interest or seeming purpose at any time.
The thin TV approach I was thinking was indeed the bezel, and also how you might mount said TV to your wall. Imagine a wall mount that is actually perfectly flush with the wall, with the obvious exception of the "tuner bar" that allows all the inputs, power supply and drive electronics.
I still was under the impression that, on the whole, OLED was highly power efficient. Sure, in the brightest scenes it will use maximum power, but in the "average" case you only are powering the areas of the screen that need to be lit -- versus an LED screen where the backlight is always on. Sure, you can find one of the super-rare, full-array backlit LED TV's for proper local dimming and perhaps save some power there, but those are VERY rare.
I still was under the impression that, on the whole, OLED was highly power efficient. Sure, in the brightest scenes it will use maximum power, but in the "average" case you only are powering the areas of the screen that need to be lit -- versus an LED screen where the backlight is always on. Sure, you can find one of the super-rare, full-array backlit LED TV's for proper local dimming and perhaps save some power there, but those are VERY rare.
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Ever since the first LCD TVs came out, anyone that remotely cares about sound has to use dedicated speakers, anyway.
There's just no rich sound without an adequate volume for the resonance case, which the LCD TVs simply don't have.
There's just no rich sound without an adequate volume for the resonance case, which the LCD TVs simply don't have.
On the plus side it would make it easier to smoke.
Blazkowicz
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Well you have other options, such as a venetian blinds TV
Gives a new twist to "screen door" artifacts
UniversalTruth
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Guys, does anyone know the image quality of this TV? Is it at least satisfactory quality, or it is cheap as shit?
http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/TOSHIBA-46BL712G,48352,241218,526901.html?langId=-3
http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/TOSHIBA-46BL712G,48352,241218,526901.html?langId=-3
