early screenshots taken on NV30

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I see, we're going to be exposed to a drip, drip of NV30 marketting material to spoil ATis release until such a time that NV30 is actually ready to produce.

Now, I wonder, exactly what isn't reproduceable from those images with a Radeon 9700? Nothing I'll bet... :D
 
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I see, we're going to be exposed to a drip, drip of NV30 marketting material to spoil ATis release until such a time that NV30 is actually ready to produce.

Now, I wonder, exactly what isn't reproduceable from those images with a Radeon 9700? Nothing I'll bet... :D

Come on m8, that's only an example of what NV30 will be capable of, what's the connection to whether R9700 can or can't reproduce this?
 
eh I didn't say anything of the sort re 9700. Nvidia provided the images for a NV30 article, and I thought people might get a kick out of seeing them beforehand. Next time I'll just keep them to myself
 
Extremely impressive. So when's your article coming out Ben? :)

Presumably these are from silicon and not from IKOS?
 
ben6 said:
Next time I'll just keep them to myself

Please don't, most of us here appreciate your input.

Ben, do you know if those shots were taken from an actual NV30 board, or is it just simulating what we can expect.... cause that fruit.jpg is from Exluna's web page, so I assume its the latter.

Here is the image from Exluna.

study6.jpg


Same as the one Ben posted.

Fuz
 
Thanks for the pics ben!

I do look forward to seeing what the NV30 can put out

I take it like this, NVIDIA is saying the NV30 can render these images in Real Time, I think that's their point
 
I was skeptical too , until I saw the kangaroo in one of those screens on that page in motion with refraction and irradiance . Regardless, I asked for clarification on the shots when I got them on Friday but doubt NVIDIA will get back to me until Monday.
 
sancheuz,

Ben has been a valuable, and objective member of not only this forum, but others...

Why don't you take the attitude somewhere else...
 
Brent said:
Thanks for the pics ben!

I do look forward to seeing what the NV30 can put out

I take it like this, NVIDIA is saying the NV30 can render these images in Real Time, I think that's their point

I think their point is: "We have no hardware so lets leak lots of little bits of information out an let people do our marketting for us until we actually have something to show."
 
ben6 said:
I was skeptical too , until I saw the kangaroo in one of those screens on that page in motion with refraction and irradiance . Regardless, I asked for clarification on the shots when I got them on Friday but doubt NVIDIA will get back to me until Monday.

Huh. Kinda confirms the point.
 
What's wrong with some of you people, ben posts these images, that in all likelyhood were provided to him by Nvidia. Most of us here know ben for a while now and he's pretty much allways been spot on correct with his info. IMO he can be trusted not making up fake pics or claims unless there is a major misunderstanding between him and his sources (and he probably got a lot more carefull about what to post too since that GF3Ti incident ;) ).

Some of those images appear in Exluna's web gallery, well it happens that this company that was only just recently aquired by Nvidia, so it actually makes sense that they try to use their material for marketing! You can actually find some of the R9700 press material in website galleries too (reflective sphere demo), companies apparently like taking already created offline rendering scenes and re-create them in 3D lately, no big deal! Exluna was interesting to Nvidia because of their expertise in offline rendering, they are probably now working on implementing some of this expertise for the NV30 offline-rendering marketing or maybe also for real-time shading in games, we'll have to wait and see.

sancheuz, we can see you're a new guy so welcome, but entering a new board by slinging mud at a respected member without having your facts straigt is a pretty poor way to make yourself known...

Personally I'm pretty excited about the amount of quality the R9700 and supposed NV30 screenshots and demos have shown so far. The only scene recently that left me somewhat unimpressed was that rotating car...
 
Snap, naw there's videos included in the package , one of aging wood, one of a kangaroo, both of which are on Exluna's page except not as videos but as a still render .

http://www.exluna.com/products/gallery/killeroo.jpg

The difference being that it was fully colored and textured in a room with a Nvidia sign in it, instead of the simple model in the screenshot
 
Well, you can recreate such scenes in real time on todays hardware using some 'tricks' (for the lack of me being able to think of a better word at the moment). Of course, I would imagine these do no such thing.
Looks very good, would love to see it in motion though.
 
ben6 said:
Snap, naw there's videos included in the package , one of aging wood, one of a kangaroo, both of which are on Exluna's page except not as videos but as a still render .

http://www.exluna.com/products/gallery/killeroo.jpg

The difference being that it was fully colored and textured in a room with a Nvidia sign in it, instead of the simple model in the screenshot

They very well may be rendered from NV30 or a simulator of NV30, I'm not saying they are not (although all those images appear on that Exluna site: http://www.exluna.com/products/gallery.html ). I'm just saying that while we say no hardware all this amounts to is marketing spoilers for ATi's release. I've yet to hear what ATi's card can't do relative to what we've seen or heard of for NV30 and ATi's card is supposed to be here within a matter of weeks (as opposed to months).
 
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